# A question of ethics
**URL:** https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838
**Category:** Pub
**Created:** [March 14, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838 "2009-03-14T03:52:01Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@shortsie](https://fixed.org.au/u/shortsie)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/1 "2009-03-14T03:52:01Z")
if a bike has been locked up and then mostly stripped ie, wheels, seat, and appears to be dicarded.
Would it be ok to take the mud guards?
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### Author:  [@el\_Brado](https://fixed.org.au/u/el_Brado)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/2 "2009-03-14T03:56:56Z")
Sounds like bad karma.
Go to the bicycle recycle and buy some for $10 so you can sleep at night.
Or, leave a note.
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### Author:  [@Cale](https://fixed.org.au/u/Cale)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/3 "2009-03-14T04:05:38Z")
how longs it been sitting there?
free is better than $10
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### Author:  [@p.m](https://fixed.org.au/u/p.m)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 4:28am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/4 "2009-03-14T04:28:02Z")
is that the bike sitting in brunny street
its been there for a while
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### Author:  [@Maney](https://fixed.org.au/u/Maney)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 6:34am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/5 "2009-03-14T06:34:56Z")
is that the fuji bike just out of cbd? white frame?
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### Author:  [@garv23](https://fixed.org.au/u/garv23)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/6 "2009-03-14T06:47:34Z")
i would liken that to a dead body who’s had a wallet stolen already…can you take the dead guy’s phone then? or pants?
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### Author:  [@Rigorr](https://fixed.org.au/u/Rigorr)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/7 "2009-03-14T07:34:46Z")
it’s still stealing, unless you are sure it is discarded and unwanted.
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### Author:  [@heatseeker](https://fixed.org.au/u/heatseeker)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 8:31am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/8 "2009-03-14T08:31:28Z")
TAKE IT!
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### Author:  [@hank](https://fixed.org.au/u/hank)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/9 "2009-03-14T15:00:30Z")
sounds like to me some fucker has dumped their bike there… its your duty to clean up the streets one mud guard at a time…
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### Author:  [@shortsie](https://fixed.org.au/u/shortsie)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/10 "2009-03-14T15:29:32Z")
> [@Rigorr](#):
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> it’s still stealing, unless you are sure it is discarded and unwanted.
im pretty sure, its been there for at least a week
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### Author:  [@el\_Brado](https://fixed.org.au/u/el_Brado)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/11 "2009-03-14T16:30:57Z")
Sounds like we need a poll.
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### Author:  [@SanEsteban](https://fixed.org.au/u/SanEsteban)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/12 "2009-03-14T16:37:27Z")
This is a tough moral quandary. And I think the question comes down to: how long does a bike have to be locked in one place to be considered abandoned? If it isn’t abandoned, then taking the guards is stealing. If it is abandoned, why just take the mudguards?
> [@SuperMaxPower](#):
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> Sounds like we need a poll.
+1
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### Author:  [@alex4point0](https://fixed.org.au/u/alex4point0)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/13 "2009-03-14T16:50:11Z")
abandoned bikes dissuade people from taking up riding. They should be canaried after a week and then have their locks ground off if not claimed in that time.
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### Author:  [@shortsie](https://fixed.org.au/u/shortsie)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/14 "2009-03-14T20:07:43Z")
no poll.
I did it anyways
now i have mud guards.
i think im gonna go back for the risers now.
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### Author:  [@erle](https://fixed.org.au/u/erle)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/15 "2009-03-14T22:27:53Z")
Take what you need. Someone would do it to you if it were your bike.
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### Author:  [@Maney](https://fixed.org.au/u/Maney)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/16 "2009-03-15T04:18:38Z")
to me it all depends on how fast you are at taking these mudguards and if there is anyone around…if your slow and theres people around your gona end up feeling shit. but if your fast and the streets are empty go son go!
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### Author:  [@trevi](https://fixed.org.au/u/trevi)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/17 "2009-03-15T19:16:54Z")
> [@erle](#):
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> Take what you need. Someone would do it to you if it were your bike.
+1
also, atleast you’re going to get some use out of them… certainly better than leaving 'em there to be trashed further
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Commuter](https://fixed.org.au/u/Captain_Commuter)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/18 "2009-03-16T02:14:28Z")
while we’re on the topic, there was a semi-stripped fuji (looked like a flat-bar roadie) just by Weary Dunlop on the way home tonight
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### Author:  [@LAM](https://fixed.org.au/u/LAM)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/19 "2009-03-16T02:34:29Z")
was it white? i think it used to have mudguards…
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### Author:  [@shortsie](https://fixed.org.au/u/shortsie)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/20 "2009-03-16T03:22:24Z")
> [@LAM](#):
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> was it white? i think it used to have mudguards…
yep white Fuji on StKilda road, took the mudguards on Sunday, Awesome.
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