# A question of ethics

**URL:** <https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838>\
**Category:** Pub\
**Created:** [March 14, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838 "2009-03-14T03:52:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![manbau](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/manbau/32/57_2.png) [@manbau](https://fixed.org.au/u/manbau)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/21 "2009-03-16T03:48:01Z")

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I’m pretty sure the legal term for stripping a bike car or anything is stealing by finding .The best way is to hand it in to the filth and if not claimed its yours.

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**Author:** ![luketherider](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/luketherider/32/160_2.png) [@luketherider](https://fixed.org.au/u/luketherider)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/22 "2009-03-16T04:01:40Z")

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well i took front wheels off old road bike locked up and left for 3.5 weeks , in an out of the way spot not moved so fuk it took that shit ,needed, it observed it ,and bam got it , very quick right tools and 2 days later it was taken … as in some one saw their baby had being attacked and removed it b4 the nast people took more( nice bars). Felt conflicted for weeks and now lock my pony front and back always.

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**Author:** ![prawza](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/prawza/32/98_2.png) [@prawza](https://fixed.org.au/u/prawza)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/23 "2009-03-16T04:35:53Z")

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don’t do it!

there was a locked up bike on campus, in the same spot for around a year… i considered taking it many times.

earlier this year, i saw the same bike, but in a different spot… i was confused…

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**Author:** ![Bender](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/bender/32/111_2.png) [@Bender](https://fixed.org.au/u/Bender)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/24 "2009-03-16T05:14:46Z")

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![](http://images.google.com.au/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://topbanana.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/confused.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGVTF8AWyMGtIbMzuVoY7_v9ckp0A)

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**Author:** ![Pip](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/pip/32/36_2.png) [@Pip](https://fixed.org.au/u/Pip)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/25 "2009-03-16T06:09:46Z")

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> [@luketherider](#):
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> well i took front wheels off old road bike locked up and left for 3.5 weeks , in an out of the way spot not moved so fuk it took that shit ,needed, it observed it ,and bam got it , very quick right tools and 2 days later it was taken … as in some one saw their baby had being attacked and removed it b4 the nast people took more( nice bars). Felt conflicted for weeks and now lock my pony front and back always.

three and a half weeks is nothing. i’d give it two months at least before i even began to think about taking shit from it.

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**Author:** ![luketherider](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/luketherider/32/160_2.png) [@luketherider](https://fixed.org.au/u/luketherider)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/26 "2009-03-16T12:53:11Z")

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if it wasin a hot traffic spot ,same .but this was out of the way and spiders and birds had their way long b4 i did, but that is why this is a question of ethics?

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**Author:** ![EzyLee](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/ezylee/32/142_2.png) [@EzyLee](https://fixed.org.au/u/EzyLee)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/27 "2009-03-16T15:01:25Z")

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Here is another one…

Three old bikes, all in not working order (flat tyres, no chain, buckled rims, non working brakes) laying by a Salvos bin. Do you take them? If you do take them, is it fair to leave some old clothes as a trade off.

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**Author:** ![LAM](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/lam/32/17_2.png) [@LAM](https://fixed.org.au/u/LAM)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/28 "2009-03-16T15:09:12Z")

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yes. that sounds more like something they woud just bin anyway. you could make a monetary donation of the parts value if you felt compelled, $20 or so.

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**Author:** ![2joes2](https://fixed.org.au/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@2joes2](https://fixed.org.au/u/2joes2)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/29 "2009-03-16T15:09:55Z")

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would you feel bad if you took the entire bike? if so don’t take anything. if not take it all. it appears you felt bad otherwise you wouldn’t have posted. probably just needed others to condone it.

still… i’d do it.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Commuter](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/captain_commuter/32/16_2.png) [@Captain\_Commuter](https://fixed.org.au/u/Captain_Commuter)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/30 "2009-03-16T15:17:30Z")

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> [@EzyLee](#):
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> Here is another one…
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> Three old bikes, all in not working order (flat tyres, no chain, buckled rims, non working brakes) laying by a Salvos bin. Do you take them? If you do take them, is it fair to leave some old clothes as a trade off.

You’d be doing the salvos a favour - they don’t have the time or resources to fix up busted crap that they can’t sell as is. The fucked up bikes, dead fridges, stained mattresses etc that people dump - it actually costs the sallies to dispose of all that shit.

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**Author:** ![EzyLee](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/ezylee/32/142_2.png) [@EzyLee](https://fixed.org.au/u/EzyLee)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 3:27pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/31 "2009-03-16T15:27:19Z")

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Thats what I thought. It would cost them money to either have them removed or get them to a point of working order. Needless to say, I have got the bikes and did hook them up with a whole bunch of my clothes in return. I will see if I can clean the bikes up and have them on the road again. They aren’t anything special. One is an apollo and the other is a no name.

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**Author:** ![heavymetal](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/heavymetal/32/69_2.png) [@heavymetal](https://fixed.org.au/u/heavymetal)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/32 "2009-03-16T16:16:02Z")

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thieving’s thieving, no matter which way you slice it. and never forget about the special place in hell for bike thieves…

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**Author:** ![erle](https://fixed.org.au/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@erle](https://fixed.org.au/u/erle)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/33 "2009-03-16T17:26:27Z")

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But what is thieving? There is a green Pug mixte in melbourne that has been locked up in the one place for the better part of 3 years. It hasn’t moved once. When does that stop being someones property and become public? If a bike has been on the one place for 6 months or so, it’s a natural resource.

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**Author:** ![antmandan](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/antmandan/32/115_2.png) [@antmandan](https://fixed.org.au/u/antmandan)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/34 "2009-03-16T17:58:05Z")

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I hate being bikeless and have often wondered about locking a (fairly cheap) bike in every capital city that I visit on a regular basis since I hate taking bikes on planes. However I’ve always stopped short as I figured they’d get taken by council after a few months or trashed by drunken louts.

My best thought was to park them somewhere in sight of a public webcam so I could keep tabs on their health from 1000kms+ away.

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**Author:** ![AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/al9000/32/7_2.png) [@AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/u/AL9000)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/35 "2009-03-16T18:37:39Z")

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> [@antmandan](#):
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> I hate being bikeless  
> I hate taking bikes on planes.

Buy a new Brompton.

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**Author:** ![LAM](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/lam/32/17_2.png) [@LAM](https://fixed.org.au/u/LAM)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/a-question-of-ethics/38838/36 "2009-03-16T18:47:06Z")

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if i really felt it was abandoned, some kind of sticker or sign, that looks official, saying"if this bike is not moved by … then it will be destroyed" could be put on it, if it’s not moved after a week, take it with a free conscience.

like they do overseas  
[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/2063/2315182908_9303cea75f_b.jpg "Abandoned") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/16nine/2315182908/)  
or

> Four times a year, Cullen and her crew mark every bike on the lot with an orange tag. Owners are told to tear off the tag when they pick up their bike. After one month, any bike that still has an orange tag is taken away. Cullen says they usually clear out 500 to 600 in each sweep.

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