any recommendations on where to get this done (melbourne). i’ve come across a decent frame which is just the size i want but i’m wanting to put some horizontal dropouts on there…
Yes Abbotsford can do them. But, there were afew problems with the one frame that I know of that was done by them. They got the position of the dropouts wrong which resulted in a lower BB and the need to file off a large chunk of the rear brake stay for tyre clearance.
For a little bit more than the cost of getting dropouts replaced, you can buy an Eno hub.
If your frame has reverse horizontal dropouts, I suggest just using it as is. It’s actually much easier to deal with for street riding than track ends.
I guess the real question is, why do you want to have track ends fitted?
Des
From memory Snuffy paid about ~$125 for that conversion.
But what price do you put on a destroyed brake bridge?
has anyone had any problems with rear wheels coming out of horizontal dropouts?
just to clarify “reverse horizontal dropouts” does that mean the wheel goes in from the back or are they the “reverse” of track ends?
I’ve never had a rearwheel come out of one of my fixed bikes, but I lean on the wheel nuts pretty heavily to avoid just that. On my roadbike though, no matter how hard I do up the QR, I can still pull the wheel gunning it off the lights.
Reverse horizontal dropouts are the opposite to track ends, eg:
Don’t forget to add more for the required new paint job.
Track dropout conversion - ~AU$125
Brake bridge repair - ~AU$55
The look of shear terror on the kids faces when they realize it’s NOT Badger the Clown at their
party but Snowflake - Priceless.
Horizontal dropouts the wheel enters from the front, track from the back. The only problems faced with these is that some are shorter than others which ‘could’ restrict chain tension. I say ‘could’ because most are long enough that you needn’t concern yourself.
Is it a chromed rear triangle?
I used to do that on my tommasini.
I upgraded my skewer to one with metal bushes, not plastic. Stopped the problem.
thanks everyone. i guess i’m just used to track ends. the dropouts on said frame are reverse horizontal. i don’t plan on using this bike on anything but street, though.
This is another of those annoying illogical terminology things that we only use due to convention… Someone correct me if I’m off here but:
Horizontal drops: The entry is from the front, they are angled, usually on road bikes
Track ends: Rear entry, these are actually horizontal.
In my very limited experience, horizontal drops are preferred for street bikes because you can get the wheel in and out easier when you flat, the chain hangs over the frame comfortably so you don’t get dirt on your chain, and if you run a rear brake, you won’t have to adjust the pads as the chain wears.
0.02.
Yeah I guess ‘Horizontal’ dropouts are termed thus due to their closer to relationship to horizontal more than vertical. I’m probably adding fuel to the topic but maybe we/they should re-term them angled dropouts? meh…
well they’re all angled albeit it 90 degrees or otherwise 
I think the biggest confusion occurs when people call “track ends” “horizontal drop-outs”, or call “horizontal drop-outs” “reverse horizontal dropouts”. Drop outs makes perfect sense as the wheel drops out. Horizontal ones are called that because they’re close-to-horizontal-vertical-drop-outs.
I just call them track dropouts, road dropouts, or forward-facing road dropouts.
Hmmm could be infact. I’m not even sure what the frame is, it’s been resprayed before I got my hands on it and from what I’ve been told was decent quality back in the day (from the lugs and Campag dropouts etc). I’ll have to scratch it somewhere discreet to have a look.
I’ve changed the skewer once and it got better, but I’m going to have a look around for an old campy one which seem to be really solid QR’s.
-Garth
Or put a really good modern one in. Like a Ksyrium SL or Durace or modern campy.