ill bet you a billion i dont have the same IP address as ‘alleycat racer’.
such a n00b.
Anyway, this topic has gone on a gander, sidetrack, whatever you may call it.
abit left arm around the wicket.
It’s certainly an awful website.
i’ve noticed that, it never has been up to scratch really. Maybe they’ll do something about it.
You seen there carbon fibre De Ver.
bloody giants are everywhere.
I saw a commuter the other day with a full carbon fibre giant and he had a pannier rack on it!
HA! 
wtf? streetteaming? someone delete this thread please. let people make their own minds up as to relative quality of either of these bikes.
Does alleycat racer have stocks in De Ver or something… I smell a rat. 
true that.
cranklegs/woooh/alleycat racer, astroturfing and streetteaming only work when you don’t get found out. If you get caught, you just look like a tool.
You’d be better off using this forum to ask for help re-doing de ver’s company image/bike graphics and fixing the de ver website (it has broken image links etc. and looks pox). There’s probably quite a few guys on this forum who know from graphic design and are also mad keen on bikes - sounds like exactly what you need.
Seriously, a one-off graphical makeover is pretty cheap in the scheme of things and will stop people from throwing up a little bit in their mouths when they ride past your shop.
I stated this from experience. My bro-in-law stripped his Quando hub and the threads on mine were a bit scrappy when I changed the cog (now with a freewheel for the missus), whereas my Velocity was fine after twice the amount of wear. You get what you pay for.
hehe…so WTF is streatteaming?
Originally, the American “street team” model was developed by urban based record labels, like Loud, Jive, Bad Boy and Priority. Rap labels found an affordable and effective bridge to their target audience that did not require the traditional outlets found in print, radio and television mediums. The position of street team representative was often filled by fans of an artist or young people looking for an introductory position in the music industry. Usually unpaid, these teams are often comprised of teenagers who are rewarded with free band merchandise or show access in exchange for a variety of actions:
placing stickers and posters in their communities
bringing friends to the shows
convincing friends to buy band merchandise
phoning your local radio station to request their songs be played
bringing vinyl and CDs to local DJs in the clubs where they work
putting up posters
posting to band forums and bulletin boards online
maintaining zines or websites dedicated to the band
The modern street team has been appropriated by the indie and punk rock genres and has even spilled into corporate campaigns and brand building. In some cases, points are assigned to an individual for a particular action, and those points can be exchanged for tickets to shows, or for band merchandise. Some bands even produce special items just for street team members.
the glory of the internet, infinite knowledge.
I agree wholeheartedly with angry on this one. With the market like it is today, De Ver should be taking everything in as constructive critisism and applying it, rather than being too ‘proud’ and being left hung out to dry in a few seasons, cause lets face it, the larger brands’ bikes just keep getting better and better value with every year that goes by in all aspects of the industry.
No i don’t have stocks in De Ver, neither do I have the same ip address as anyone else on the list. I expressed my opinion.
Whatever.