# Foa overnighter!! - cancelled!!! :( **URL:** \ **Category:** FOA events\ **Created:** [April 8, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046 "2013-04-08T17:49:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![k\_o](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/k_o/32/442_2.png) [@k\_o](https://fixed.org.au/u/k_o)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/61 "2013-04-23T19:45:12Z")
going by our successful overnighters, it seems the best thing to do is get a small group of mates to commit then anyone else that comes along is a bonus. this has meant some of our trips have just been 3-4 of us, but we got decent numbers on the Port Albert and the Point Lonsdale one. lyndon’s brewery rides are a good example, he puts them on regardless of numbers it seems. ---
**Author:** ![droz](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/droz/32/270_2.png) [@droz](https://fixed.org.au/u/droz)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/62 "2013-04-23T20:02:11Z")
Having no wife and no kids, I would’ve been in for this had I been in Melbs or it be in Sydney. $50 is cheaper than all the shit I’d need to haul my own gear, and I wouldn’t use it often enough to make the money worthwhile. Sad to hear it didnt go ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Jelmer](https://fixed.org.au/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/7c8e57/32.png) [@Jelmer](https://fixed.org.au/u/Jelmer)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/63 "2013-04-23T20:08:35Z")
For me its because its a long weekend. I took Friday off and am going on a Grampians climbing trip thursday to saturday, followed by an earlier commitment this saturday night. Have all the camping gear etcetera and would have been super keen but just wrong timing. On a regular weekend i would have skipped climbing for this but i took a day of leave so i could go out for three days straight. ---
**Author:** ![generic\_hipster](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/generic_hipster/32/601_2.png) [@generic\_hipster](https://fixed.org.au/u/generic_hipster)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/64 "2013-04-23T20:09:35Z")
Lack of camping gear plus I kind of had plans made it a no go for me. If there was to be another one organised with a little more notice (and didn’t clash with any weekend races I want to do) I’d be in for sure. ---
**Author:** ![rolly](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/rolly/32/280_2.png) [@rolly](https://fixed.org.au/u/rolly)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/65 "2013-04-23T21:19:55Z")
ok, this is all good stuff and i appreciate the responses, so thanks for that. the main points i’ve got are: 1 - not enough notice/long weekend this idea has been kicking around for a while now, and i was actually surprised when i looked back at the actual date this thread was started, i think i genuinely felt like it’d been in the public sphere a lot longer than it had. obviously there was a fair bit of pre-planning behind the scenes before it was made public. that said, to some extent i didn’t want to put it too far into the future as people forget about it or it creeps up on them. plus the weather isn’t getting any better. but i accept the short notice was a factor. i’m kinda surprised the long weekend was a negative, but maybe that is due to the above time factor. personally i love the fact that i can do all the boring domestic duties this thursday/friday and still get a rad weekend. 2 - No gear/too hard basket again, this is an issue due to the lack of notice. 3 - Family commitments/other events this will also be a factor, family is the most important thing to pretty much everyone, and with young parents on here i totally understand that. i can’t really foresee that, but that’s life. other events can be navigated to an extent though. i knew tour of south west was on but, perhaps incorrectly, assumed racer types may not be particularly interested anyway. this was dumb. but melbourne being the way it is, there’s always going to be clashes. the show n shine/fyxo event are good examples of when this can work, but perhaps not when it’s solely one or the other. 4 - Outline of cost/value for money i suppose the lack of info on this was that the actual physical things you would’ve received for this event is pretty minimal. someone to carry your bags, a pretty sketchy map, a campsite and a BBQ. the majority of the cost was for the time taken to organise the entire event, from creating the ticketing process right down to estimating the fuel costs for markee’s van and taking the time out of my weekend to buy the bbq supplies etc. i suppose this comes down to what people feel my time is worth (and i imagine this will vary greatly), but i do get a small wage from FOA/NSP/nickj to try and make these things a success, and i assure you it’s less than what i feel my time is worth in the week leading up to these events. 5 - Weekend with strangers/not #campvibes well, yeah, this is one of those things that will be extremely personal for those attending. i’m a pretty extroverted guy in a situation like this, so i’m cool with it, but i completely understand many others wouldn’t be. hell, we all know each other through an online bike forum… but we’re trying to make this a fun way for people to get into cycling as well as maybe meet some new people for a regular ride, so it’s gotta be open to the public, otherwise it becomes (to quote someone on rotorburn when hearing of the show n shine) “one big hipster circle jerk” aaaaaaaaaaaanyway, i hope that didn’t come across as one big whine or defensive post about why it didn’t work, i just thought people may appreciate the insight from this side of the fence. this post is also for me to review when we do look at doing this again. cheers everyone, please continue to contribute if there is more that needs to be added. ---
**Author:** ![horatio](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/horatio/32/42_2.png) [@horatio](https://fixed.org.au/u/horatio)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/66 "2013-04-23T21:28:37Z")
> [@rolly](#): > > 4 - Outline of cost/value for money > > i suppose the lack of info on this was that the actual physical things you would’ve received for this event is pretty minimal. someone to carry your bags, a pretty sketchy map, a campsite and a BBQ. the majority of the cost was for the time taken to organise the entire event, from creating the ticketing process right down to estimating the fuel costs for markee’s van and taking the time out of my weekend to buy the bbq supplies etc. Not wanting to sound like a tight arse, but do this items add up to $50? ---
**Author:** ![heavymetal](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/heavymetal/32/69_2.png) [@heavymetal](https://fixed.org.au/u/heavymetal)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/67 "2013-04-23T21:32:18Z")
> [@horatio](#): > > Not wanting to sound like a tight arse, but do this items add up to $50? More than you get for your $50 from andyfyxo atmo. ---
**Author:** ![dfunkt](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/dfunkt/32/392_2.png) [@dfunkt](https://fixed.org.au/u/dfunkt)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/68 "2013-04-23T21:34:38Z")
i honestly hate long weekends, esp those that are a public holiday on a tues/thurs and ppl make it a 4 day weekend. every long weekend throughout the year i have 2 or 3 annual events on that i need to choose which one i commit myself to, normally 8-12 months prior. i will then always get an invite to another couple of events… fuck having a social life! delete this if you want mods, just long weekends really do irk me! ---
**Author:** ![swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/swuzzlebubble/32/3766_2.png) [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/69 "2013-04-23T21:43:53Z")
I wouldn’t want to risk the high opinions I have of your internet personas being shattered by what you might be like in real life. ---
**Author:** ![MikeD](https://fixed.org.au/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ed655f/32.png) [@MikeD](https://fixed.org.au/u/MikeD)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/70 "2013-04-23T21:44:59Z")
> [@horatio](#): > > Not wanting to sound like a tight arse, but do this items add up to $50? They add up to $50 if you don’t have a suitable bike, rack and panniers. I am pretty dissappointed this fell short (for now). Helping Rolly organise this and seeding the idea/route (albeit fully self supported but open invitation) I envisaged a bit more take up, but I think I am little biased being a keen tourer. Lots of people I know talk about bike touring/camping but never quite suss it. Also being someone who has always had tent/mat/bag I guess I underestimated the number of people on here who would be prepared if even with basic ‘festival/car camping’ gear. The responses are interesting and valid and hopefully we’ll suss it better for next time. The whole “I’ll go if I know other people going” is a tricky one and I don’t really know a way around it - I have noticed Melbourne being a bit chronic for this, people waiting till the last minute to commit just in case something better comes up… ---
**Author:** ![HeavyMetalCyclist](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/heavymetalcyclist/32/209_2.png) [@HeavyMetalCyclist](https://fixed.org.au/u/HeavyMetalCyclist)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/71 "2013-04-23T21:45:31Z")
are you kidding, we’re all heaps cooler in real life. except for maybe Blakey. he’s a dick. ---
**Author:** ![AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/al9000/32/7_2.png) [@AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/u/AL9000)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/72 "2013-04-23T21:54:18Z")
> [@MikeD](#): > > people waiting till the last minute to commit just in case something better comes up… FOMOOABO (fear of missing out… on a better offer) ---
**Author:** ![DPK5B](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/dpk5b/32/101_2.png) [@DPK5B](https://fixed.org.au/u/DPK5B)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/73 "2013-04-23T21:55:11Z")
> [@HeavyMetalCyclist](#): > > are you kidding, we’re all heaps cooler in real life. This, and a lot funnier. i know its hard to top mckenny’s posts but mckenny in real life wins. ---
**Author:** ![MikeD](https://fixed.org.au/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ed655f/32.png) [@MikeD](https://fixed.org.au/u/MikeD)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/74 "2013-04-23T21:56:38Z")
> [@Blakey](#): > > FOMOOABO > > (fear of missing out… on a better offer) And Fomooabo to you Blakey… It is ironic as often they end up missing on cool stuff out due to this. (that’s irony right?) ---
**Author:** ![rolly](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/rolly/32/280_2.png) [@rolly](https://fixed.org.au/u/rolly)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/75 "2013-04-23T21:57:54Z")
> [@horatio](#): > > Not wanting to sound like a tight arse, but do this items add up to $50? did you read my post H? I acknowledge those items may not add up to $50, but the value lies in having someone organise your entire weekend for you. whether you see the value in that is entirely personal and impossible to predict. to give you perspective, I went to the Beaufort last Saturday with over $100 in my back pocket. woke up with $5 and a hangover. was a fucking great night, but a very easy way to blow twice what this event is costing each participant. ---
**Author:** ![HeavyMetalCyclist](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/heavymetalcyclist/32/209_2.png) [@HeavyMetalCyclist](https://fixed.org.au/u/HeavyMetalCyclist)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/76 "2013-04-23T22:04:12Z")
> [@MikeD](#): > > And Fomooabo to you Blakey… > > It is ironic as often they end up missing on cool stuff out due to this. (that’s irony right?) are you a fan or ms morrisette? ---
**Author:** ![jaseyjase](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/jaseyjase/32/187_2.png) [@jaseyjase](https://fixed.org.au/u/jaseyjase)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/77 "2013-04-23T22:05:43Z")
Maybe start small? ie those who have the gear and actually want to/will go/have been Take heaps of pics/video rapha style Post pics/vid in the next event you organise so people can see how cool/fun/awesome it can be? ---
**Author:** ![AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/al9000/32/7_2.png) [@AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/u/AL9000)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/78 "2013-04-23T22:07:25Z")
> [@rolly](#): > > did you read my post H? heh ---
**Author:** ![AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/al9000/32/7_2.png) [@AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/u/AL9000)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/79 "2013-04-23T22:08:22Z")
> [@HeavyMetalCyclist](#): > > are you a fan or ms morrisette? IT’S LIKE RAAAAAAAAAIN ON YOUR SHIRTLESS TORSO (i can do this all day) ---
**Author:** ![k\_o](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/k_o/32/442_2.png) [@k\_o](https://fixed.org.au/u/k_o)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/foa-overnighter-cancelled/61046/80 "2013-04-23T22:10:15Z")
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