The roadies I know judge you on your legs and fitness not your ride and any ‘discrimination’ against newbies and wannabes is against the danger of bad riding.
Trust me, leg size generally means nothing. It really is the watts you are punching out as far as I’m concerned.
What I was meaning was accountant roadies that don’t race and how they judge each other. It’s less at the elite cyclist level because most guys have deals for their equipment.
In my time on the road and in the shop I see more snobbery between/from roadie cats on the road than from/between fixie riders. I dont think its such a big deal, i just ride my bike from A to B and have fun doing it. Meeting cool new people along the way is a bonus. You just gotta take the good with the bad, like any other scene.
I have personally received ALMOST nothing but positive things from other riders in the ‘scene’ that I have met, although i cannot speak for everyone.
Perhaps that is just because I am a fairly outgoing guy and I love to meet new people. (its a two way street and i suppose being outgoing may help)
I dont wave or talk to every fixie rider on the road, cause simply some of these ‘hipsters’ are fucking morons. I decided this after I was trackstanding at lt bourke and swanston and i had a brakeless vice magazine warrior ON A CHROME BIANCHI PISTA ride straight up the back of me with his balls on the toptube and his feet trying to stop on the ground. Causing me to bin it.
Therefore i’m a little hesitant to throw my love at out of the box pista riders!
ah well, end rant.
If you see me out, wave and I shall wave back and say hi
The only times I’ve binned it has been kinda funny both times.
1st time: Doing Madison slings with some mates fully loaded on the way home from the pub. Not a good idea.
2nd time: Track standing at the end of Brunswick st in peak hour. Big toe overlap and jammed my foot against the front wheel. Fell in slow motion. Rookie
Matt, I feel your pain - I’m a computer nerd with little or no fashion sense and a rookie cyclist, so I can kinda understand why those with more experience and skill might be reluctant to lower themselves to acknowledge the new guy, and why those that are new would be nervous to - but at the same time, I really don’t care because unless it’s a race - it’s not a race and unless it’s a race there’s no reason for competition. I love pootling along, riding for a laugh or some bumpy fun… it’s all good. I hope you weren’t referring to our Wednesday ride as snobbing you guys - I thought we all had a pretty fun time?
If it helps at all - you have plenty of friends here and If any of us snob you it’s going to be by accident or some other entirely non-personal circumstance.
If your going to judge people, I find it best not to judge by their looks, bike, or the colour of their pubic hair, but by their riding style. Smooth consistent riders are often the best riders, everyone has their own style but you can often spot a good itelligent smart rider by his pedal stroke, efficiency, consistency and bike handling skills. I have seen good riders riding around with baggy shorts, t-shirts on crappy mountian bikes.
So go out ride, who gives a shit as long as you know you are good
I hope you weren’t referring to our Wednesday ride as snobbing you guys - I thought we all had a pretty fun time?
No mate not at all, was great and I wish I could get to more of them. There’s heaps of top blokes out there that’s for sure and maybe I too have fallen into the trap of generalising too much. That wasn’t my intention. I don’t have any specific examples except for the one stated and maybe I took that the wrong way as well - maybe not. My intention was probably to stop people generalising too much (I’m confused). Anyway, it’s all cool.
My favourite time of the week is Sunday afternoon, cruising in the sun to a few beer gardens on the fixie with my bros. Maybe even stop at the top of Ikea carpark with a king brown for some flatland tricks and have a laugh at ourselves. Some people just take things all a litlle bit too seriously.
Oh and… Best of luck for the Cannonball run! Smash it!
Thanks mate. Dans got me a little bit scared now. He’s riding a 44 x 16 fixed and 44 x 16 free. When I state my concern at my 48 x 16 fixed and 48 x 18 fixed (for the hills!) he just laughs and says 'you’ll be right". :evil:
No doubt I’ll be stopping at some store on the way searching for cogs.
Don’t stress George. just ride your bike and have fun. But if you are worried about your image to other people and feel the need to post on the internet then maybe you are one of the fabled hipsters?? I have to say the “fixie” scene is so much more bitchy then the mtb scene, people should just grow the fuck up and stop taking themselves so seriously.
But i would maybe suggest ditching the spoke cards, it doesn’t matter how many alley cats you have been in, adding more spoke cards won’t impress anyone, i don’t understand the obsession with leaving the spoke cards in. Can someone explain it to me?
Its like a Downhiller leaving the number plate on the bike after a race and riding the local trails on the weekend. Or its like a triathlon racer leaving a big texta number 45 on their arm and then riding to work the next day in a singlet. You just don’t do it, it looks wanky.
Oh there’s one other thing - if you’ve got a mesh panel in the back of your knicks so you look like some sort of triathlete wannabe plumber, stay away please!
you know that a thid of the threads in this pub forum seem to be about the commercialisation of ‘fixed gear culture’ or the ‘hipsters’ taking over the streets?
it’s all a waste of time. do you think any ‘hipsters’ actually read this stuff?
Well I’ve been known to make a few roadie jokes, but then I make jokes about plenty of other stereotypes too.
However…I have a road bike with gears. I have Record carbon cranks (thanks Des). Occasionally I might wear lycra (well not really, but I could). I ride a fixed bike. It’s got a Chris King headset, crap brakes and cheap wheels. I’ve got a frame I bought secondhand that today would cost $4000 to buy new. But loads of people are much stronger or skilled riders than me. I know how to build wheels and bikes. I drive a car when I have to. I ride a motorcycle when I want to. I walk to work. I work in an office.
A person is rarely defined by a single thing that they choose to do.
My point is: labelling roadies as snobs or fixed riders as whatever is a very shallow point of view.
Does anyone here really believe they can infer so much about a person based on wearing lycra and riding a road bike, for example?