# Hold Fast vs Skin Grows Back
**URL:** https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173
**Category:** Fixed Street
**Created:** [March 28, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173 "2012-03-28T22:00:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@viv1](https://fixed.org.au/u/viv1)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/1 "2012-03-28T22:00:27Z")
Hi guys, as the title says looking for suggestions from people with experience with either of these. Been riding clipless on the fixed gear for a few months now, and going back to some generic velcro straps is pretty crappy! Looking at either of these two because I believe you can adjust them into a wedge shape to fit your shoe better? Have been looking for some pics/info on skin grows back back straps but can only find pics of them only fitted to a pedal.
Also don’t really like the idea of having a whole bit of velcro exposed like on the skin grows back straps, much prefer the strap to go right over the end like hold fasts. (if you look at a pic you will see what I mean)
Would most likely buy the skin grows back straps from their website as they have free postage (?) but where in Aus would I find hold fasts? Higher price plus postage from US is putting them second.
Any help much appreciated.
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### Author:  [@Lemontime](https://fixed.org.au/u/Lemontime)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/2 "2012-03-28T22:07:35Z")
I’ve been running skingrowsback for a year now and they’re still strong as ever… GIT SUM
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### Author:  [@saintcloud](https://fixed.org.au/u/saintcloud)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/3 "2012-03-28T22:14:06Z")
[saintcloud](http://www.saintcloud.com.au)
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### Author:  [@HLC](https://fixed.org.au/u/HLC)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/4 "2012-03-28T22:27:00Z")
I use to run SGB straps, no issues what so ever.
they are basically the same thing so whichever you buy will be cool.
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### Author:  [@whatever\_really](https://fixed.org.au/u/whatever_really)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/5 "2012-03-29T00:14:42Z")
sgb or bogear support local lads.
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### Author:  [@viv1](https://fixed.org.au/u/viv1)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/6 "2012-03-29T00:39:47Z")
Cheers for all the replies guys. Gonna go wit the SGB straps then 🙂
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### Author:  [@bricktop](https://fixed.org.au/u/bricktop)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2012, 9:12am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/7 "2012-03-29T09:12:09Z")
can’t recommend the SGB highly enough.
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### Author:  [@greenmachine](https://fixed.org.au/u/greenmachine)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2012, 12:56pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/8 "2012-03-29T12:56:37Z")
> [@dayne](#):
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> sgb or bogear support local lads.
- 1
If you buy SGB you’ll be helping out a great guy trying/doing something that takes a lot of time and perseverance.
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### Author:  [@John\_Prolly](https://fixed.org.au/u/John_Prolly)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/9 "2012-04-04T21:22:03Z")
Skin Grows back for your ex-cons down under but Hold Fast started it all! (and I’m on the header card)
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### Author:  [@Lemontime](https://fixed.org.au/u/Lemontime)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/10 "2012-04-04T21:25:06Z")
> [@John\_Prolly](#):
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> Skin Grows back for your ex-cons down under but Hold Fast started it all! (and I’m on the header card)
Whaddya mean, “Ex”?
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### Author:  [@doomith](https://fixed.org.au/u/doomith)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/11 "2012-04-04T22:05:32Z")
Holdfast \> BO Gear
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### Author:  [@JohnAppleseed0](https://fixed.org.au/u/JohnAppleseed0)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/12 "2012-04-05T19:56:38Z")
The problem with the BO straps is that they are very cumbersome to adjust. I regret my purchase, and will be heading down to Sable & Argent tomorrow to pick up a pair of SGB straps.
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### Author:  [@kiasu](https://fixed.org.au/u/kiasu)
#### Post date: [April 5, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/13 "2012-04-05T20:12:59Z")
got both sgb and bo gear surplus to my needs if interested in local…
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### Author:  [@viv1](https://fixed.org.au/u/viv1)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/14 "2012-04-06T00:13:43Z")
yea man interested in sgb for sure. What condish they in and how much? cheers
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### Author:  [@Joel](https://fixed.org.au/u/Joel)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2012, 8:16am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/15 "2012-04-06T08:16:19Z")
Hold fast all the way
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### Author:  [@Plorry\_2](https://fixed.org.au/u/Plorry_2)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2012, 1:48am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/16 "2012-04-19T01:48:26Z")
BO GEAR \> sgb/hold fast
in the bo’s you actually feel like your in there and not a slight twist from flying out while bombing down that huge hill, and not a problem once they are set, unless you need to re-adjust every ride?? (who does this anyway?)
but not everyone wants to feel that secure in their straps, in that case SGB\>hold fast!
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### Author:  [@gypsy](https://fixed.org.au/u/gypsy)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/17 "2012-04-19T03:18:03Z")
> [@John\_Prolly](#):
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> Skin Grows back for your ex-cons down under but Hold Fast started it all! (and I’m on the header card)
Jamie was prototyping and produced the dx strap before hold fast kids were riding bikes. No joke. He rocked them many many moons ago and was laughed at by all.
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### Author:  [@Lemontime](https://fixed.org.au/u/Lemontime)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/18 "2012-04-19T18:37:22Z")
> [@Plorry\_2](#):
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> BO GEAR \> sgb/hold fast
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> in the bo’s you actually feel like your in there and not a slight twist from flying out while bombing down that huge hill, and not a problem once they are set, unless you need to re-adjust every ride?? (who does this anyway?)
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> but not everyone wants to feel that secure in their straps, in that case SGB\>hold fast!
I don’t get this, you must have had them set up wrong. My SGB straps are the most secure thing I’ve ever put my feet into (that sounds weird…), no chance of pulling out when doing sweet whipskids or “bombing down that huge hill”. Only problem with all these is they fuck with your shoes something fierce.
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### Author:  [@n81](https://fixed.org.au/u/n81)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2012, 7:00pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/19 "2012-04-19T19:00:17Z")
> [@Plorry\_2](#):
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> BO GEAR \> sgb/hold fast
>
> in the bo’s you actually feel like your in there and not a slight twist from flying out while bombing down that huge hill, and not a problem once they are set, unless you need to re-adjust every ride?? (who does this anyway?)
>
> but not everyone wants to feel that secure in their straps, in that case SGB\>hold fast!
If you:
1. own more than one pair of shoes?
2. ride in smaller style shoes (as in light running shoes or some thing other rather than chunky skate shoes)? or
3. position the balls of your feet over the guts of the pedals - rather than sliding further into the straps and riding more on the arch?
then you’ll find the BO’s impractical/unsuitable
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### Author:  [@Plorry\_2](https://fixed.org.au/u/Plorry_2)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/hold-fast-vs-skin-grows-back/56173/20 "2012-04-19T21:53:16Z")
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