# Nice Rack Des!

**URL:** https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133
**Category:** Post your ride
**Created:** [December 26, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133 "2008-12-26T04:06:42Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author: ![AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/al9000/32/7_2.png) [@AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/u/AL9000)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/1 "2008-12-26T04:06:42Z")

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So on a quiet Boxing Day Des & I broke out the tools and built a front platform rack, based on Marc P’s P/R (pop rivet) design. Also similar to the ‘Slab-a-Dan’ rack of a couple of years ago but with more bracing/larger Al stock.

Thanks for the clamps/vice Nath, they were invaluable.

![](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/3137311237_3a1e9a4747.jpg)

It’s sized for a ‘green bag’, made from angle and flat aluminium stock, riveted together, with stays to the lowrider mounts and a bracket to the handlebars.

![](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/3138138484_d4dfef3216.jpg)

Rides well with a few kgs if it’s strapped down properly.

![](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/3137311055_f697555b28.jpg)

Version 2.0 will be sized for a carton of Coopers, maybe a timber deck, and improvements are still to be made to the bar mount.

Photo link:  
[![P&O Cruises Oceana](https://live.staticflickr.com/5180/5498360364_12155e92f0_b.jpg)](https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=p%2Fr&user_id=85942209%40N00 "Flickr Search")

Source:

> **[Finished Pop/Rivet rack](https://flickr.com/photos/drwelby/2514235699/)**
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> Explore drwelby's photos on Flickr. drwelby has uploaded 336 photos to Flickr.

[http://www.instructables.com/id/E494ILKFJADQD1P/](http://www.instructables.com/id/E494ILKFJADQD1P/)

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### Author: ![whatthekoon](https://fixed.org.au/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/c5a1d2/32.png) [@whatthekoon](https://fixed.org.au/u/whatthekoon)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 8:36am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/2 "2008-12-26T08:36:17Z")

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I think I might have a nicer solution for the handle bar mount:

Instead of bending a “U” shape for that vertical piece, we can bend two “L” shapes back into the handle bar and perhaps bolt clamps taken off road bike brake levers at the end. Or if you really want to be fancy, quick release mounts off front lights. We’ll probably need a horizontal flat strip (or two) somewhere in between the tray and the handle bar to stiffen it all up.

On second thought, bending may not be such a good idea since that piece is load bearing. Maybe we’ll need to rivet the whole thing together using pre-fabricated “L” shape joints or whatever you call those things.

Sound like a plan?

Des

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### Author: ![spud](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/spud/32/12_2.png) [@spud](https://fixed.org.au/u/spud)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/3 "2008-12-26T14:50:07Z")

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Any particular reason its on the front? One on the back could be longer, more stable and less steering-induced mayhem.

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### Author: ![chromeo](https://fixed.org.au/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/71c47a/32.png) [@chromeo](https://fixed.org.au/u/chromeo)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/4 "2008-12-26T15:57:09Z")

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nice work guys

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### Author: ![whatthekoon](https://fixed.org.au/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/c5a1d2/32.png) [@whatthekoon](https://fixed.org.au/u/whatthekoon)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/5 "2008-12-26T16:20:57Z")

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> [@spud](#):
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> Any particular reason its on the front? One on the back could be longer, more stable and less steering-induced mayhem.

Blakey will probably rattle off a whole bunch of reasons. For me it:

1. Looks cool
2. Is nice to be able to see your stuff in front of you
3. Rear racks are relatively cheap for good quality compared to front ones

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### Author: ![hotdoghorny](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/hotdoghorny/32/33_2.png) [@hotdoghorny](https://fixed.org.au/u/hotdoghorny)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/6 "2008-12-26T16:24:46Z")

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this is ace, but i only drink cairns lager ☹

> [@Blakey](#):
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> Version 2.0 will be sized for a carton of Coopers…

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### Author: ![shortsie](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/shortsie/32/89_2.png) [@shortsie](https://fixed.org.au/u/shortsie)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/7 "2008-12-26T16:38:20Z")

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> [@spud](#):
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> Any particular reason its on the front? One on the back could be longer, more stable and less steering-induced mayhem.

ive found bikes corner better with a front rack

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### Author: ![AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/al9000/32/7_2.png) [@AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/u/AL9000)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/8 "2008-12-26T17:22:37Z")

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> [@spud](#):
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> Any particular reason its on the front? One on the back could be longer, more stable and less steering-induced mayhem.

If you don’t have high trail then it doesn’t mess with the steering (see French porteur bikes, the Kogswell P/R, A.N.T’s bikes etc).

There are many reasons for front loading, all explained better than I can by people like Joel Metz. ([blackbirdsf.org](http://blackbirdsf.org))

Another reason Des didn’t mention is that having it up front helps distribute the load more evenly over both wheels.

As Des says, it’s almost impossible to get a front rack that isn’t a tiny platform or a lowrider pannier rack. If you want to put larger/bulkier items on it, you need to go custom or steal a Postie bike.

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### Author: ![shortsie](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/shortsie/32/89_2.png) [@shortsie](https://fixed.org.au/u/shortsie)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 6:13pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/9 "2008-12-26T18:13:30Z")

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> [@Blakey](#):
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> > [@spud](#):
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> > Any particular reason its on the front? One on the back could be longer, more stable and less steering-induced mayhem.
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> If you don’t have high trail then it doesn’t mess with the steering (see French porteur bikes, the Kogswell P/R, A.N.T’s bikes etc).
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> There are many reasons for front loading, all explained better than I can by people like Joel Metz. ([blackbirdsf.org](http://blackbirdsf.org))
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> CETMA
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> Another reason Des didn’t mention is that having it up front helps distribute the load more evenly over both wheels.
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> As Des says, it’s almost impossible to get a front rack that isn’t a tiny platform or a lowrider pannier rack. If you want to put larger/bulkier items on it, you need to go custom or steal a Postie bike.

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### Author: ![AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/al9000/32/7_2.png) [@AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/u/AL9000)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/10 "2008-12-26T19:07:05Z")

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> [@shortsie](#):
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> CETMA

I like CETMAs, but I also like making stuff. If I had a welder I’d definitely be making one from Cr-Mo tube.

Also, for Spud on why the front: [榴莲视频在线观看网址入口\_榴莲视频在线下载\_榴莲视频在线下载app下载\_榴莲视频最新app下载](http://cetmaracks.com/faqs.htm)

Des: scroll down to the “How do they attach” part. Time for a trip to the hardware store.

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### Author: ![heavymetal](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/heavymetal/32/69_2.png) [@heavymetal](https://fixed.org.au/u/heavymetal)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/nice-rack-des/38133/11 "2008-12-27T05:15:12Z")

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> [@mckenny](#):
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> this is ace, but i only drink cairns lager ☹

i still have nightmares about cairns lager…
