On stiffness. How much is too much.

The thing is stiffness and compliance in the right areas.
It’s all about balance
Well that’s my limited understanding.

Bang on. Plus damping, which is entirely different to Stiffness/compliance.

Well, since steal goes soft, crabon is better cos it stays stiff. And stiff is better.

does that mean that bcoz you’re a metal cyclist that you go soft?

I swear this has never happened before, it’s just because I had too much beer.

lulz

Quoted for myth.

Don’t worry honey, happens to lots of guys.

Well, that’s my feeble troll attempts done.

I appreciated your efforts.

I expected more of you.

It’s just not me.

Wait are we still talking about stiffness, or stiffness?

The two are intrinsically linked.

Another trend is the crazy thin seat stays on every (decent) road bike.

marketing says this is to mediate all the front triangle stiffness so you dont rupture your spleen… it makes sense. but… some of those stays look real skinny.

PS, you know what does go soft? Carbon fibre.

Carbon-fiber components actually do get softer with use. As the component flexes, the internal fibers break free of the surrounding resin and delaminate invisibly. When TOUR magazine tested carbon forks, they found that after 100,000 test cycles, some forks had lost a significant amount of their stiffness. Today, the European Union standards for fatigue resistance specify how much stiffness a carbon component may lose over the test cycle.

(I trust Tour mag, their testing is top notch.)

Quote is from Frames Going Soft? | Off The Beaten Path

^ That’s kinda significant given carbon is always claimed to have an infinite fatigue life.

when i’m worried about stiffness i just use viagra.

Thought you were straight edge.