# Power meters. How did they help you?
**URL:** https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746
**Category:** Road
**Created:** [January 2, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746 "2014-01-02T04:15:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 4
### Author:  [@thriller](https://fixed.org.au/u/thriller)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2014, 1:45pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/61 "2014-03-16T13:45:48Z")
Pulled the trigger on a Vector/510 combo, wildfiresports.com.au had the pair for $1560. Considering I watched a 6 month old, second hand pair of Vectors sell for $1220 last night, I think that’s ok.
Picked vector so that I can swap between current bike and maybe-future-one-day-race-bike. And I went to the superdrome for the first time last week and that was wicked good fun, so with that in mind the Vector is (I think?) the only PM that is swappable between track & road bikes. That, and if I went stages I’d need a new crankset on my current roadie to replace the square-taper 105 set.
---
### Author:  [@generic\_hipster](https://fixed.org.au/u/generic_hipster)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/62 "2014-03-16T14:32:46Z")
That’s a pretty good deal! The only other PM that could be swapped between bikes (track and road) would be those look/polar pedals I think.
That said I’m too lazy to be swapping pedals all the time and I’m looking at getting a stages for the track bike too.
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [March 16, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/63 "2014-03-16T16:46:10Z")
iBike Newton arrived Thursday with three extra sensor kits so we are now “Team Swuzz p/b iBike”
Set it up on the commuter Friday uncalibrated just to get some numbers and get a feel for it.
Then on the roadie Saturday - cool to upload it all after Mt Eliza ride and see it plot where I was drafting, braking, out-of-saddle etc.
Swuzz jnr had it rigged up for Kew Blvd yesterday and pacing himself at about 110w set a new pb - marginal gains lol.
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/64 "2014-03-19T17:59:13Z")
---
### Author:  [@generic\_hipster](https://fixed.org.au/u/generic_hipster)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/65 "2014-04-02T23:20:01Z")
So the pod on my stages has cracked and unit is not working anymore. Haven’t crashed/dropped bike or had anything happen to the arm that’d compromise the crank really. Hoping this is a quick warranty issue, have heard that stages customer service is really good but I’m guessing I’ll have to deal with the Aus distro.
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/66 "2014-04-03T22:03:30Z")
Reading up on W’BAL
Looks like that could be where power meter usage is headed.
---
### Author:  [@dalai](https://fixed.org.au/u/dalai)
#### Post date: [April 3, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/67 "2014-04-03T22:49:38Z")
W’bal???
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/68 "2014-04-04T03:34:05Z")
> [@dalai](#):
>
> W’bal???
[W’bal, what is it?](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/golden-cheetah-users/w$27/golden-cheetah-users/aEwntP2KGE4/fyh6rSZmtroJ)
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2014, 3:55am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/69 "2014-04-04T03:55:21Z")
That’s what I’m talking about:
---
### Author:  [@thriller](https://fixed.org.au/u/thriller)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2014, 3:57am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/70 "2014-04-04T03:57:09Z")
Hmmm… Do I need to pull from github to get that, or has everyone got it hidden somewhere in the downloaded version of GC?
Some screenshots from feature requests on github:
[ ](https://camo.githubusercontent.com/0a1812742d567d89397085556ca0373c1457ce40/68747470733a2f2f662e636c6f75642e6769746875622e636f6d2f6173736574732f3134323837362f313531353038302f38303933663633322d346166632d313165332d396564382d3434656434376265323837322e706e67)
[ ](https://camo.githubusercontent.com/195afd2e5dd5e014fce5015bab7be0a5252eb652/68747470733a2f2f662e636c6f75642e6769746875622e636f6d2f6173736574732f3134323837362f313434373132392f37663233326661362d343234322d313165332d393262612d3664353664333331303764642e706e67)
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2014, 4:10am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/71 "2014-04-04T04:10:42Z")
Yes you need the dev version 3.0.x or whatever from
>
>
> .. so ride plot of it as a data series is correct
---
### Author:  [@thriller](https://fixed.org.au/u/thriller)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2014, 4:37am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/72 "2014-04-04T04:37:59Z")
OOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo, that is neat.
Track sessions the other night, 5 minutes of swapping turns:
Same night, lots of very slow & then two lap sprints:
Super cool to see how it relates to the quality of your intervals. These two actually felt kinda accurate, was feeling pretty toasted at the end of each one.
Any reading around on how to set the W’ value? It’s a prick of a thing to search google for.
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2014, 4:52am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/73 "2014-04-04T04:52:45Z")
Assuming your CP is OK, you want W’ at a level that the w’bal just remains positive when you completely empty your tank.
Start yourself at say 25,000kj and bump it up if you find any ride that breaks that.
GC should have some tools to deduce it (or a range) from your data in due course.
- Change your colour for W’bal while you’re at it too! tools|options|appearance
---
### Author:  [@dalai](https://fixed.org.au/u/dalai)
#### Post date: [April 4, 2014, 6:38am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/74 "2014-04-04T06:38:09Z")
> [@swuzzlebubble](#):
>
> [W’bal, what is it?](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/golden-cheetah-users/w$27/golden-cheetah-users/aEwntP2KGE4/fyh6rSZmtroJ)
Thanks. Some light reading for the weekend…
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/75 "2014-05-07T18:43:46Z")
Anyone here use (or know of) a coach to whom they send power meter files as part of the arrangement?
---
### Author:  [@Aeons](https://fixed.org.au/u/Aeons)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/76 "2014-05-07T18:50:26Z")
> [@swuzzlebubble](#):
>
> Anyone here use a coach to whom they send power meter files as part of the arrangement?
My friend/boss Tristan Dimmock races the NRS and gave me a glimpse into how he gets coached the other day when I asked him for advice about FTP. He uploads all his PM files and a descriptive sentence for each ride he does onto training peaks. His coach (Cheryl Woods I think) has viewing access to his account and provides feedback on his training as well as meeting in person etc.
---
### Author:  [@generic\_hipster](https://fixed.org.au/u/generic_hipster)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/77 "2014-05-07T21:05:33Z")
> [@swuzzlebubble](#):
>
> Anyone here use (or know of) a coach to whom they send power meter files as part of the arrangement?
Brad Robins.
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2014, 3:56am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/78 "2014-05-15T03:56:28Z")
[iBike Newton cycling power meter](http://store.ibikesports.com/accessories-parts/ibike-pro)
> In 2004 we introduced the iBike Pro at the revolutionary price of $349. Ten years later we’re keeping the revolution alive with a limited-edition iBike Pro that has all of iBike’s 2014 technology and features, at the original $349 price.
---
### Author:  [@swuzzlebubble](https://fixed.org.au/u/swuzzlebubble)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2014, 3:56am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/79 "2014-05-28T03:56:27Z")
---
### Author:  [@thriller](https://fixed.org.au/u/thriller)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746/80 "2014-06-01T00:56:58Z")
Just broke into the 5w/kg territory for a 20 minute test today. Way excited.
Powermeters. Good. Thanks to anyone who convinced me how useful they are.
[Previous page](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746.md?page=3)
[Next page](https://fixed.org.au/t/power-meters-how-did-they-help-you/63746.md?page=5)