I’m getting my Daccordi powdercoated this week- it needs it!
After the frame is powdercoated, I want to put some Cyclemondo decals on. I have used these decals before and they are quite fragile if you don’t protect them in some way.
So my question is what the best way to protect the decals- can I clearcoat a powdercoated frame? Or is there an alternative method?
Mate, don’t powdercoat it! D.O.N.T!!!
Peter at Star Enamellers (he’s the best) did my Moser for only $250. That included:
proper detailed sandblast
preserve chrome on chainstays and dropouts
match original metallic colour
fill in small dent on chainstay
fill in all pantographs/engravings (about 9 of them) in contrast colour
nice pin stripe detail around chrome
AND putting on all decals from Cyclomondo and burrying them under clear coat
The frame looks like brand new now!
Peter has been working together with Cyclomondo for years and knows how to put on decals perfectly and burrying them under the clear for protection. Those decals are fragile as and take practice to apply. I reckon don’t DIY, it will do your head in…and cost you more…
the signwriter who did my boxlining and decal application had warned me of the problems he had in with waterslide decals over adhering to a powdercoat. OK for a show bike, he said, but not for regular use. As a result I went with paint not powdercoating.
Any other views on this?
take your decals to a signwriter and get more robust stickers made
put some clear tape over your decal (like Scotch Sealing tape or similar, completely clear and about 5cm wide) … I usually put some on the ‘high wear’ areas of my bike… chain stay, top tube (prevents chips when locking up) etc. Done well, it is barely visible. I guess you’d need to be pretty careful here because if you stuff it up and want to start again the fragile decal may break (?).
Powdercoating is a sin against steel.
I did my first bike with powdercoat and hated myself for it ever since. You’d be better off getting some decent quality spray cans and DIY. That’s what I’m doing for my next job. At least then I can strip it off and start again if it starts to look ratty. Powder and there’s no going back.
Like anything in this realm you will be tainted by you good and bad experiences. Only seen powder-coats with drips, uneven surface application and you are going to think that’s all there is. If you’ve only seen beautiful wet paint jobs from people like Cosgrove or Paconi then you’ll expect every wet paint job to be a work of art. There are good and bad in both, and reasons for and against each which have been discussed ad nauseum on this forum. [/rant]
Think I’ve heard quotes around $250 mark for what you describe (may not have included the lugs though, may have just been for a single colour with decals and clear coat). All depends on the paint, frame condition, reputation of the painter, etc. etc. As an example Joe Cosgrove here in Brisbane starts around $350 and goes for the sky from there!
regarding the water slide decals; these guys www.hlloydcycles.com recommend you clean the surface with metho, then apply a “decal adhesive”. Hobby shops sell Humbrol branded adhesive, apparently it help the decal set on the surface. Then clear coat it.
My GF has just done it on a powder coated frame, not sure on durability though.