# the Geelong project
**URL:** https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690
**Category:** Road
**Created:** [December 10, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690 "2012-12-10T21:12:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@n81](https://fixed.org.au/u/n81)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/41 "2012-12-11T16:02:45Z")
> [@larfinboy](#):
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> I don’t care if it weighs more than 6.5kgs.
> I don’t care if it has spacers.
> I don’t care if it’s steel and not titanium.
>
> What I do care is that I can ride 100-200kms on it and can walk when I’m done.
> My wrists/elbows/knees don’t hurt and I smile every time I look at it.
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> And when I don’t smile quite as much, I can take it back to Baum in 5/10/15 years and have
> it refinished in a new colourway that will make me smile again because it will feel like a new bike.
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> These are some of the reasons I have chosen to buy a Baum.
> I could have bought a Ken or a Bundy, Kumo or Gellie - but I didn’t.
> There will always be ‘other bikes’ and something nicer in another bike that what I have might happen.
>
> My current roadie is 11 years old. There is nothing wrong with it. I have ridden it consistently, barring two shoulder reconstructions and incident involving smashing my knee, for that time.
> This bike replaced a steel framed Elan with D/T shifters which I owned for 12 years, which replaced an Italian steel framed bike that was stolen.
> I don’t change my roadie every second model year, or worry that it’s not cool enough to roll with the dentists & lawyers.
>
> My road bike is my go to bike. I don’t mess with it, I just ride it. I can get organised and ride with mates or get the shits and ride by myself. And it doesn’t matter, 25kms, 50kms or 100kms - I’m on my bike and zero fucks are given.
well put - I like the way you roll
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### Author:  [@alexb618](https://fixed.org.au/u/alexb618)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/42 "2012-12-11T18:39:55Z")
hey who deleted my post where i told spirito to fuck off with his manufactured drama? 🙂
would have posted earlier but was busy actually riding a bike!
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### Author:  [@John\_Kennedy](https://fixed.org.au/u/John_Kennedy)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2012, 10:57pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/43 "2012-12-11T22:57:13Z")
I read somewhere that people can build carbon frames that feel like steel frames now.
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### Author:  [@boyracer](https://fixed.org.au/u/boyracer)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/44 "2012-12-12T00:24:17Z")
Then there’s Holland cycles… 
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### Author:  [@bricktop](https://fixed.org.au/u/bricktop)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/45 "2012-12-12T01:34:37Z")
> [@John\_Kennedy](#):
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> I read somewhere that people can build carbon frames that feel like steel frames now.
gold!
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### Author:  [@titanium](https://fixed.org.au/u/titanium)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/46 "2012-12-12T13:42:03Z")
The custom bike build that you are planning sounds awesome, it’s nice to be able to create something that is very unique to you.
The option of headset spacers is good because people change and I am sure in 10 years time your riding position may not be the same as it is now and the spacers will enable you to make small changes in the future.
Having spacers on a custome made frame is not an indication of poor calculations on the frame builders part but more about offering options in the future (different stems have different heights etc.).
I think Spirito pretty much said the same thing.
I would personally be pretty upset if the frame builder insisted that no spacers were needed because he was so amazing at what he does.
I have had dream bikes in the past and for me the constant maintenance and worry about damage etc. was almost an obsession which was tiresome but I guess that’s probably me just caring too much about it than I should have.
Good luck with the build.
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### Author:  [@larfinboy](https://fixed.org.au/u/larfinboy)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/47 "2012-12-12T19:13:43Z")
Have spoken price and details with Shifter Dan. The alternate wheelset is a go.
H+ Son TB14s, hard ano laced to my existing 36H Record hubs with black DT Swiss DB spokes.
Thinking that the hard ano grey may feature as a minor colour in the finished paintwork.
Drop shadow or outline colour for the logo.
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### Author:  [@horatio](https://fixed.org.au/u/horatio)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/48 "2012-12-12T19:18:11Z")
> [@larfinboy](#):
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> H+ Son TB14s, hard ano laced to my existing 36H Record hubs with black DT Swiss DB spokes.
In a word, bomb-proof.
Hard anodised is the best- pro-ish and understated. My Open Pro CD’s are still surprisingly grey on the brake surface. Next question- tyres? That should last a couple of pages…
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### Author:  [@P\_N20](https://fixed.org.au/u/P_N20)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/49 "2012-12-12T19:20:27Z")
> [@horatio](#):
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> In a word, bomb-proof.
Isn’t that two words?
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### Author:  [@larfinboy](https://fixed.org.au/u/larfinboy)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/50 "2012-12-12T19:32:28Z")
Open to suggestions. Something in a 25C for country roads is what I’m thinking.
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### Author:  [@JLN\_not\_ZLTN](https://fixed.org.au/u/JLN_not_ZLTN)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/51 "2012-12-12T19:34:32Z")
Gumwall tyres. Simple.
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### Author:  [@horatio](https://fixed.org.au/u/horatio)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/52 "2012-12-12T19:37:38Z")
> [@larfinboy](#):
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> Open to suggestions. Something in a 25C for country roads is what I’m thinking.
Paging Blakey.
While we’re waiting I’ll just reiterate my usual statement- Vittoria Open Evo Pave 24c- BEST TYRE EVA
Rumour has it they may release a 27c version, which would be amazing.
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### Author:  [@larfinboy](https://fixed.org.au/u/larfinboy)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/53 "2012-12-12T19:38:30Z")
Single 10mm spacer, integrated seat post. Not just for crabon frames.
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### Author:  [@rolly](https://fixed.org.au/u/rolly)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/54 "2012-12-12T19:39:29Z")
> [@larfinboy](#):
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> country road.
ZOLTAN should have this covered folks
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### Author:  [@JLN\_not\_ZLTN](https://fixed.org.au/u/JLN_not_ZLTN)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/55 "2012-12-12T19:42:06Z")
But look how nice the gunwalls are against the black rims.
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### Author:  [@larfinboy](https://fixed.org.au/u/larfinboy)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:43pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/56 "2012-12-12T19:43:48Z")
> [@horatio](#):
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> While we’re waiting I’ll just reiterate my usual statement- Vittoria Open Evo Pave 24c- BEST TYRE EVA
> Rumour has it they may release a 27c version, which would be amazing.
I know Antmandan has been rockin’ these and has been pleased.
They are high on the list…but why the fuck are they green, seriously.
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### Author:  [@JLN\_not\_ZLTN](https://fixed.org.au/u/JLN_not_ZLTN)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/57 "2012-12-12T19:44:52Z")
> [@rolly](#):
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> ZOLTAN should have this covered folks
You better believe it!
In fact I’m wearing some CR pants right now!
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### Author:  [@horatio](https://fixed.org.au/u/horatio)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/58 "2012-12-12T19:45:45Z")
> [@JLN\_not\_ZLTN](#):
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> But look how nice the gunwalls are against the black rims.
… which haven’t seen a brake pad.
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### Author:  [@larfinboy](https://fixed.org.au/u/larfinboy)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/59 "2012-12-12T19:48:13Z")
> [@JLN\_not\_ZLTN](#):
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> You better believe it!
>
> In fact I’m wearing some CR pants right now!
Glad to hear you’re wearing pants. It’s at the business end of the year and rules go out the windows.
Rims are hard ano so dark grey and not black. Hopefully the hard ano will wear better than the black TB14s I’ve got and used brakes on them.
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### Author:  [@whatever\_really](https://fixed.org.au/u/whatever_really)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/the-geelong-project/59690/60 "2012-12-12T19:58:11Z")
What about archetypes, the deeper section looks great on modern bikes, I love my new 25mm gp400s tyres,
But if this is a non race bike I would call 25mm minimum.
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