# to straggler or not.

**URL:** https://fixed.org.au/t/to-straggler-or-not/64060
**Category:** CX/MTB
**Created:** [February 2, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/to-straggler-or-not/64060 "2014-02-02T21:23:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author: ![heavymetal](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/heavymetal/32/69_2.png) [@heavymetal](https://fixed.org.au/u/heavymetal)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/to-straggler-or-not/64060/61 "2014-06-16T18:35:58Z")

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Seriously though, what the fuck is with those dropouts?

What problem are they solving? It’s like the hideous lovechild of a vertical and a horizontal dropout.

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### Author: ![Bigadz](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/bigadz/32/374_2.png) [@Bigadz](https://fixed.org.au/u/Bigadz)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/to-straggler-or-not/64060/62 "2014-06-16T19:01:00Z")

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> They’re a partially closed horizontal design that accommodates singlespeed or geared drivetrains. They feature stop screws that thread in from the rear to further secure the wheel and to position the rear wheel for optimal shifting, plus a forward-mounted stop screw on the drive side to keep the wheel from slipping forward

(From Surly website)

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### Author: ![Seb](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/seb/32/606_2.png) [@Seb](https://fixed.org.au/u/Seb)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/to-straggler-or-not/64060/63 "2014-06-16T19:05:49Z")

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> [@Bigadz](#):
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> (From Surly website)

Surly always want to give options - turn their bike into whatever you want

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### Author: ![larfinboy](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/larfinboy/32/566_2.png) [@larfinboy](https://fixed.org.au/u/larfinboy)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/to-straggler-or-not/64060/64 "2014-06-16T19:05:59Z")

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> [@avymtal](#):
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> Seriously though, what the fuck is with those dropouts?
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> What problem are they solving? It’s like the hideous lovechild of a vertical and a horizontal dropout.

Yerp, this stopped me from buying one.  
This is the one I built for a friend. She had to have it coz ‘glitter dreams’.  
She may come to hate these dropouts once she’s changed a tube in the rain as this is her commuter.

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### Author: ![AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/al9000/32/7_2.png) [@AL9000](https://fixed.org.au/u/AL9000)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/to-straggler-or-not/64060/65 "2014-06-16T19:22:38Z")

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Surly gon surly.

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### Author: ![horatio](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/horatio/32/42_2.png) [@horatio](https://fixed.org.au/u/horatio)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/to-straggler-or-not/64060/66 "2014-06-16T19:30:32Z")

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Too many options

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