# TOPSPEED

**URL:** <https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282>\
**Category:** Pub\
**Created:** [March 20, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282 "2006-03-20T22:47:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/tomacropod/32/9_2.png) [@tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/u/tomacropod)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 11:00pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/21 "2006-03-23T23:00:12Z")

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well I did my century today and I’m fair rooted but OK. Rode in 48/16 which is 6.36 metres development. About 79 gear inches.

Here are my stats from the cateye Velo 8 I bought yesterday (so it was virginal for this trip which is helpful) for $35.

Distance: 161.58km  
Av speed: 25.8km/h  
Max speed: 61.6 km/h  
Time: 6:15:29

Metres development: 6.36/crankRev  
161,580/6.36 = 25,405 crank revolutions

67.61 rpm average (25.8km/h)  
161 rpm max (61.6km/h)

now 161rpm was absolutely flat knacker and I couldn’t maintain that for more than 5 seconds. My speed along the flats when I didn’t have a bloody headwind was between 30 and 35km/hr for the most part - there were a lot of rolling hills though. one 56km stretch didn’t have a flat bit at all except for the crests of hills.

All this makes me think of the Tour de France riders of the pre WWII era who rode fixed wheel bikes, with all their gear, 300km or more per day for a month with no rest days…screw that! Big respect.

Tips from bitter experience:

comfy saddle  
at least 28mm rear tyre with 80 psi!

- Joel

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**Author:** ![system](https://fixed.org.au/uploads/default/original/2X/a/aa2ad6da781f23ba9f77a46c6fd6d05b415d278a.png) [@system](https://fixed.org.au/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/22 "2006-03-24T01:43:09Z")

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Hey that’s an ace ride! Has anyone done a 200+k ride fixed? I saw an older guy in the round the bay ride last year on a fixie - looked like he was taking it easy too :/.

As for the early tour riders, even more impressive is the gear ratios they used:

“The gearing on early Tour competitor Jean Alavoine’s bike was 22 x 11 (with a modern half-inch chain, the gearing would be equal to 44 x 22).”

From: [http://www.torelli.com/raceinfo/tdf/tdfhistory.shtml](http://www.torelli.com/raceinfo/tdf/tdfhistory.shtml)

Over 400k per stage too !# argh.

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**Author:** ![tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/tomacropod/32/9_2.png) [@tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/u/tomacropod)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/23 "2006-03-24T02:58:58Z")

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wow what a great site! I love reading about the conditions of the old tour. It’s been suggested that I run/participate in a race which follows the conditions of the early grand tours. If I ever get my Malvern Star working it’d be a prime contender!

tubulars around the shoulders, no assistance, no brakes or effectively no brakes, dirt roads, baguettes, goggles. What great fun.

- Joel

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**Author:** ![system](https://fixed.org.au/uploads/default/original/2X/a/aa2ad6da781f23ba9f77a46c6fd6d05b415d278a.png) [@system](https://fixed.org.au/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/24 "2006-03-24T03:12:45Z")

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Nails all over the road, bashings, sabotage - yeah ! That sounds like a top idea 🙂 That site is a goldmine. I love the photos of the guys with the moustaches and the matching handlebars… or is it the other way?

But seriously… where/when would you hold it?

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**Author:** ![spud](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/spud/32/12_2.png) [@spud](https://fixed.org.au/u/spud)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/25 "2006-03-24T15:34:10Z")

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> [@"tomacropod"](#):
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> tubulars around the shoulders, no assistance, no brakes or effectively no brakes, dirt roads, baguettes, goggles.

Peanut Butter wrench!!!

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**Author:** ![system](https://fixed.org.au/uploads/default/original/2X/a/aa2ad6da781f23ba9f77a46c6fd6d05b415d278a.png) [@system](https://fixed.org.au/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/26 "2006-03-24T20:45:58Z")

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> [@"ndf"](#):
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> Hey that’s an ace ride! Has anyone done a 200+k ride fixed?

Do you mean anyone here or just anyone? I’ve ridden (on gears) quite a long way with Steve Abrahams and Phil Chadwick, both Audax fixed-wheelers. See [63xc.com--Stories | Fixed Audax](http://www.63xc.com/philc/audax.htm)

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**Author:** ![spud](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/spud/32/12_2.png) [@spud](https://fixed.org.au/u/spud)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/27 "2006-03-24T22:31:39Z")

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24hour fixed road ride anyone… ?

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**Author:** ![tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/tomacropod/32/9_2.png) [@tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/u/tomacropod)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/28 "2006-03-24T23:56:48Z")

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> [@"spuddy"](#):
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> 24hour fixed road ride anyone… ?

if it’s flat and I don’t have to carry a bag like yesterday I’ll come. hallucinations anyone?

OT:

my dad once supported Christine Fernon on her record-breaking sydney to melbourne ride (53 hours I think?). Towards the end he had to ride with her to reassure her that the truck retreads littering the shoulder were NOT in fact crocodiles and they weren’t trying to attack her.

- Joel

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**Author:** ![spud](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/spud/32/12_2.png) [@spud](https://fixed.org.au/u/spud)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/29 "2006-03-25T18:04:52Z")

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> We can’t stop here, this is crocodile country!

Hubert Opperman’s record for a road 24 hours was 813km, and on the track 787km.

Anyone know of around-the-bay-in-less-than-a-day records? Fixed?

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**Author:** ![tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/tomacropod/32/9_2.png) [@tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/u/tomacropod)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:00pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/30 "2006-03-25T23:00:53Z")

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is around the bay flat-ish? Windy.

Less distance on the track?

- Joel

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**Author:** ![system](https://fixed.org.au/uploads/default/original/2X/a/aa2ad6da781f23ba9f77a46c6fd6d05b415d278a.png) [@system](https://fixed.org.au/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/31 "2006-03-25T23:10:10Z")

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> [@"spuddy"](#):
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> Hubert Opperman’s record for a road 24 hours was 813km, and on the track 787km.

Opperman used Cyclo Oppy gears almost exclusively on road. Rod Evans used a freewheel when he beat Oppy’s track record, I think. I’m not sure about the American 24 hour records [http://www.ultracycling.com/records/timedrecords.html](http://www.ultracycling.com/records/timedrecords.html)

Nobody specifically records fixed wheel records AFAIK but the British time trialists mostly used fixed until the 60’s. According to [http://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/comprec.asp?Cat1=1&Cat2=7](http://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/comprec.asp?Cat1=1&Cat2=7) that would put the record at around 20 mph for 24 hours, 50 years ago!

I know Steve Abrahams did 442 miles on fixed last year in the Mersey Roads 24.

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**Author:** ![tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/tomacropod/32/9_2.png) [@tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/u/tomacropod)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 12:30am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/32 "2006-03-27T00:30:57Z")

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CycloOppy? Explain LurkerDave!

- Joel

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**Author:** ![system](https://fixed.org.au/uploads/default/original/2X/a/aa2ad6da781f23ba9f77a46c6fd6d05b415d278a.png) [@system](https://fixed.org.au/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/33 "2006-03-27T01:57:08Z")

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> [@"tomacropod"](#):
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> CycloOppy? Explain LurkerDave!
> 
> - Joel

Opperman was a pro cyclist. Cyclo was a British maker of derailleur gears (another Cyclo was a French maker of derailleur gears). Cyclo made a rear derailleur called the… 😉

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**Author:** ![tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/tomacropod/32/9_2.png) [@tomacropod](https://fixed.org.au/u/tomacropod)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/34 "2006-03-28T22:15:26Z")

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oh OK that makes sense. ta.

- Joel

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**Author:** ![2wheels4cam](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/2wheels4cam/32/1616_2.png) [@2wheels4cam](https://fixed.org.au/u/2wheels4cam)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/35 "2016-11-02T15:32:31Z")

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#tbt according to strava yes 😛

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**Author:** ![rolly](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/rolly/32/280_2.png) [@rolly](https://fixed.org.au/u/rolly)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/36 "2016-11-02T15:52:18Z")

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jeez, just a cheeky 10.5yr thread dig!

lolz at everyone discussing bike computers pre-garmins being used by hubbards commuting 5km into the city.

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**Author:** ![2wheels4cam](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/2wheels4cam/32/1616_2.png) [@2wheels4cam](https://fixed.org.au/u/2wheels4cam)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/37 "2016-11-02T16:04:38Z")

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> [@rolly](#):
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> jeez, just a cheeky 10.5yr thread dig!
> 
> lolz at everyone discussing bike computers pre-garmins being used by hubbards commuting 5km into the city.

hehe was a little quiet at work this morning.  
thought a throwback Thursday was in order.  
Dont think strava was around then either.

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**Author:** ![eskimounltd](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/eskimounltd/32/870_2.png) [@eskimounltd](https://fixed.org.au/u/eskimounltd)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/38 "2016-11-02T17:25:12Z")

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Holy thread-revival, batman!

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**Author:** ![JP1](https://fixed.org.au/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@JP1](https://fixed.org.au/u/JP1)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/39 "2016-11-03T18:26:10Z")

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> [@tomacropod](#):
>
> well I did my century today and I’m fair rooted but OK. Rode in 48/16 which is 6.36 metres development. About 79 gear inches.
> 
> Here are my stats from the cateye Velo 8 I bought yesterday (so it was virginal for this trip which is helpful) for $35.
> 
> Distance: 161.58km  
> Av speed: 25.8km/h  
> Max speed: 61.6 km/h  
> Time: 6:15:29
> 
> Metres development: 6.36/crankRev  
> 161,580/6.36 = 25,405 crank revolutions
> 
> 67.61 rpm average (25.8km/h)  
> 161 rpm max (61.6km/h)
> 
> now 161rpm was absolutely flat knacker and I couldn’t maintain that for more than 5 seconds. My speed along the flats when I didn’t have a bloody headwind was between 30 and 35km/hr for the most part - there were a lot of rolling hills though. one 56km stretch didn’t have a flat bit at all except for the crests of hills.
> 
> All this makes me think of the Tour de France riders of the pre WWII era who rode fixed wheel bikes, with all their gear, 300km or more per day for a month with no rest days…screw that! Big respect.
> 
> Tips from bitter experience:
> 
> comfy saddle  
> at least 28mm rear tyre with 80 psi!
> 
> - Joel

This ride has stood the test of time… Still impressive, and tips are still solid.

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**Author:** ![Bigadz](https://fixed.org.au/user_avatar/fixed.org.au/bigadz/32/374_2.png) [@Bigadz](https://fixed.org.au/u/Bigadz)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://fixed.org.au/t/topspeed/34282/40 "2018-09-20T20:22:19Z")

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Don’t know where else to post this, but here’s Denise Mueller-Korenek riding at almost 300km/h to set a new record.  
[//youtu.be/wPEgG-T3zMI](https://youtu.be/wPEgG-T3zMI)

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