Fixed in Fin Review mag again!

C’mon, there’s some nice bikes on Velospace…

Sadly it’s down still so I can’t show them to you.

Also, I bought my fixed conversion pre-built for $100. It was built by an old guy in his shed that “rescues” bikes, fixes (not fix gears them, except for a few) them and sells them for not much. Well it depenfds, they go up on ebay. But as much as I love my bike, there’s no way I’d drop $2k on a fixed gear. In saying all of this, I’m also looking at building up my own now I’m gaining more knowledge about bikes after owning a pre-built fixed.

It’s not ‘tall poppy syndrome’ from me anyway, because before the article I’d only heard about them once before and that was here, so I didn’t know who they were. I just think that $2k+ is overpriced for an ‘instant street cred’ bike. And $5k… joking right!

Also, those parts wouldn’t cost them that much, they’d be paying wholesale. You can buy Velocity wheels straight from the factory in Queensland - I paid under $350 for mine. Local powdercoat is $120 (approx) and KookieBikes stock most of the other parts, so no overseas shipping required. They wouldn’t be selling these things if they weren’t making a few hundred profit per bike.

For that kind of money I could get a Bianchi Pista, a coloured KMC chain with a matching top tube pad, and still have money left over for a Trackstar hoodie.

On another note, an interesting example of the term. Kerry may, or may not, have been an evil, billionaire, but apparently (according to Wikipedia) he was an adulterous, tax avoider and therefore fair game.

Yeah,
Mine :wink:

i’m getting those 10 commandments tattooed on my back, right next to the one of the monster child logo.

I’ve stayed out of this so far for a very simple reason.
I’m over it.
Still, it might be worth making a few observations.

I have no problem with deus as a shop, and certainly not with the quality of their motor cycle customizing work.
I haven’t seen a deus fixie in the flesh, so i only have the site, and peoples reports to me on them to go off.
More peoples opinion of the bikes is reasonably good.

Right, that’s the disclaimer part out of the way.

For me, this isn’t “tall poppy syndrome”. It’s simply a case of people who don’t know any better being introduced to fixed wheel cycling by exposure to over-priced, badly specced bikes.
The idea seems to be that you can go to deus, cough up your money and get an instant street cred ride. Something worthy of praise and admiration on velospace.
No effort, no time, no thought. Just money and done.
The idea of using velospace, or fixed gear gallery to source the proper spec for a street cred ride isn’t new, it’s just that this is the first time I’ve seen it so blatantly admitted to.

And it really is a concept designed for the clueless, cashed up trend hoppers.
Using Australian made is a laudable idea, as long as the product is good. The few cycle underground chain rings I’ve seen have been excellent quality, well made, well designed, and absolutely worth the money. I’m buying 3 next pay.
Velocity deep V’s aren’t any of these things. They are simply what is trendy now. More power to the gumdale guys for making and selling them in such huge numbers, but let’s not ever kid ourselves that they should be considered the best rim on the market. Aerohead and razor are much better rims, by the same company. but don’t have that “just seen in MASH” cred to them, so no-one buys them.

People need to remember a few things.

First of all, NJS doesn’t mean it’s better than everything else.
In fact in many cases it means the opposite. All NJS means is that it conforms to the standard needed for Keirin racing. It is designed to be a set standard, creating as level a playing field as possible. You can get much better equipment as far as performance goes, for far less money. But it won’t have that fucking NJS stamp on it costing you 150% over normal cost.

Second, fixed is not the best place to start a person cycling. It is more difficult that free, more dangerous, and will most often turn people away from our little hobby as often as it will impress them.
I seem to spend an inordinate amount of time talking to people who haven’t ridden a bike in 10 years but want to buy a fixie cause they are cool.
I’d much rather build someone a nice single speed with good quality parts that is fitted to the person. Right size, right reach, right bars, right crank length, right bike for the person.
And in a little while, if they want to go fixed, I’ll fit the cog for them for free. But I’d like them to be comfortable first.

And so we return to the deus thing.
No, they aren’t the only place doing it by any means. But they are the most blatant, the most obvious.
There isn’t the same relationship to the buyer, or the same interest in getting the right bike for the right person that you get at a local shop, or local builder…
Deus is a business, and shouldn’t have to apologize for that any more than sportsgirl should have to apologize for selling sweatshop jeans, but it irks me that they are marketing these bikes as the ultimate in hipster, trendy rides, when in reality they are just average fixies, sold through a boutique setting.

I have no doubt that the bikes will sell reasonably well. I have no doubt that the majority of the bikes new owners will happily wobble their way into the sides of cars and collections of pedestrians all over the country. I also have absolutely no doubt that most of the people buying them would have been better served by buying a good singlespeed and graduating to fixed later. it’s easy, just fit the sprocket and lockring…

yeah i have to agree with lupines points here.

My stance on The Deus shop is one of amusement.
It’s just a shop seeing a cash cow of a demographic and milking every last drop of change outta their painted on jeans as tho it was a teet asking for a good rub-n-tug.
Whatever. I dont really care, as they are a business and they are clearly in it for the money. If the trendwhore consumer is willing to pay for an overpriced bike, big deal, they’ll gladly parade around in their $300 jeans that were made in the same sweatshop as their $120 counterparts. I don’t see the bike as being much different. After all, it’s just another article of fashion, no?

People with half a clue will spend more than one second and look around before diving in headfirst. Hopefully picking up a bike from someone that knows a thing or two and will fit them correctly.

And in the end, when the season changes and rollerblades become ‘cool’ we can buy all their pretty little fixed bits off EBAY.

just remember, FRIENDS DON’T LET FRIENDS ROLLERBLADE.

hey, don’t knock the blades.
i used to skate.
i was an ice hockey goalie for 15 years back home, then got to this country and discovered that you have almost no ice rinks.
thank god things have changed. you even have televised national games now.
10 years ago if i wanted to play, i had to play inline to get game.

don’t ever remember wearing pink lycra tho…

Ice Hockey and inline hockey are ok, but rollerblading?

more like LOLerblading!

Deus is a business, and shouldn’t have to apologize for that any more than sportsgirl should have to apologize for selling sweatshop jeans

I think both Sportsgirl and Deus should apologize. Just because they’re a business doesn’t mean they can do what they want to whoever they want.
I guess it raises the ongoing problem between production and consumption - where does demand originate?

I remember going into a Deus shop ages ago when i rode motorbikes. Had never heard of them before. They had this shitty old single cylinder thing in there and i thought it was a display or at least cheap junk - maybe $500 bucks or something. It was over $10000. Being someone who prefers to fix/repair/rebuild anything with whatever parts are to hand i was completely shocked. But then people who like to get there hands dirty don’t always buy off the rack, especially when the knowledge you get from doing the work yourself makes you realize that someone is getting ripped off.

But then we could get into the whiole nature of symbolic consumption and the fact these people aren’t buying a bike… not one to ride around on anyway

Thank god i’ve never been into one of those shops again

Enough.