Hahah hense the wiggle and CRC obsession…
Never herd of a MAMIL before
Oh the irony.
Are you accusing me of been one hobbit?
Agreed. The fiziks look heaps better and are made from kangaroo, not yak.
You can hear their clunky alu frames and rusty chains, as they try and draft you in their daily challenge for the commuter cup.
A MAMIL? Fuck yeh! There’s a shitload of 'em here at FOA, I count myself among them.
Can you be a MAMIL and Fred at the same time? Or are they mutually exclusive?
I’m either one, but believe both at the same time.
I totally refute my middle agedness. I still think I’m 28 
^^Had one of these on my wheel this monring down Royal Parade. Just… lube your chain one in your miserable life!!
I got Shimano 191s the other week, they’re excellent. Stiff sole, straps and ratchet are nice and secure, shiny white finish if you like that sort of thing - pretty well tick all my boxes for $180ish. Of course they’re not one if you’re on Campag and are in the ‘everything must match’ mindset.
i’ve been thinking i’m 28 for the last 3 years, and i’m still not there yet…
MAMIL is someone WITH bikes skills but who is annoying because they flaunt their expensive bicycle and accessories, while the FRED is pretty much the opposite, but at least they are honest about who they are.
I’m sure I fall somewhere in between… 
FRED = squeaky MTB, 53-11 mashers.
MAMIL = weekend coffe-club riders on +6k crabon
I’m with Horatio on this, I’m in between.
I wish I could ride weekends!! There is always more opitunity to hit up longer rides… I haven’t got the motivation for solo 140km rides…
MAMILs are simply older gents in full kit, typically they look like Christmas hams, are weekend warriors, but don’t necessarily have all the latest expensive kit.
FREDs are the “cycling is the new golf” crowd who have the deep carbon wheels, $10k+ bikes, latest kit, etc. But even with all of this mechanical advantage struggle to maintain 30kph on a flat road, and explode on the slightest incline.
I’m not sure what word I’d use to describe the ones you see struggling uphill in the big ring, or wobbling all over the place, or with their saddle so low that their knees hit their chin, or who ride with their knees pointed out at 45 degree angles?
The knees out the side is my favourites
perhaps somebody can fill in what MAMIL and FRED stand for
Middle Aged Man In Lycra
Not sure if Fred is an acronym or whatever
What’s with that? It seems incredibly inefficient not to mention uncomfortable. I always thought the Fred definition started out as the retro grouch type but has morphed into more of what antmandan said
I’m sure if you asked them it’s not because they think it looks cool. What if that’s how they are?