So, I know at a Red Bull ‘Tires of Fire’ event in Auckland last year, some dude skidded about 270m, and Steady Rollin’ claimed it to be a world record. But, I think the guy that did it maybe lubed his tire with silicone or something, as did a few other people in that event.
What’s the feeling towards that? Surely using lube takes away from the skill of the skid.
So, I know at a Red Bull ‘Tires of Fire’ event in Auckland last year, some dude skidded about 270m, and Steady Rollin’ claimed it to be a world record. But, I think the guy that did it maybe lubed his tire with silicone or something, as did a few other people in that event.
What’s the feeling towards that? Surely using lube takes away from the skill of the skid.
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Did they skid it in both directions, etc? Any treatment like that would have to be reapplied after each round, or make a ‘wet’ and ‘dry’ tyre category. Maybe just keep an eye on all the competition bikes? I doubt anyone will try.
Wouldn’t you wear any coating off almost instantly, thus you want an extremely slick/hard compound tyre from outer down to the canvas? Or a really thin layer of pure latex to allow you to accelerate, then a belt of teflon to skid/slide on?
Until the UCI get involved, you’re free to push the boundaries. (Go Graham!!) Build a looong wheelbase bike to get the weight off the rear, put an anti tip arm with a castor on it in front of the front wheel, (opposite of drag cars)…
Getting ready for track season are we?
Just NSOTB… you really have to hit that start line as fast as you can.
I like the ‘anti tip arm’. Training wheels for skidcomps. Leaning forward for a skid is just like leaning back for a mono. Too little - nothing happens. Too much - …
So, I know at a Red Bull ‘Tires of Fire’ event in Auckland last year, some dude skidded about 270m, and Steady Rollin’ claimed it to be a world record. But, I think the guy that did it maybe lubed his tire with silicone or something, as did a few other people in that event.
What’s the feeling towards that? Surely using lube takes away from the skill of the skid.
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Did they skid it in both directions, etc? Any treatment like that would have to be reapplied after each round, or make a ‘wet’ and ‘dry’ tyre category. Maybe just keep an eye on all the competition bikes? I doubt anyone will try.
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No idea. But I doubt it. I read about it on Steady Rollin ages ago, but now I can’t find it. All I could find on the webnet is this:
my thoughts exactly. perhaps an old dried up tyre is the best.
alternatively we can apply our knowledge of <a href=“Fixed Gear Bicycles for the Road”>skid patches</a> with a 45/15 gearing, then wrap some metal band around the skid patch location and BAM! hugely long skids with sparks flying everywhere. 
+1
So who’s planning on rocking an indoor trainer tyre? :evil:
That shit would be perfect. Mega hard waxy compound. Mad yellow skids. I’ve ridden my roadie on the street with my trainer wheel in it once to get a sixer. Worst decision ever, binned it turning into my street at speed, they’re slippery as but few beers hadn’t helped either.
you also need massive pressure in the front to keep that rolling resistance low. i can see the deformation in the front tyre when i lean out over the front. might be best running a slick 32c at 100-120psi in the front,
Trainer tyres for the win… but technique will make more of a difference.
As for there being no ‘official’ rules… if you were on the messengers.org mailing list you’d have heard the quacking from around the globe after someone mentioned the ‘record’ skid at the ACMC.
given that it features as an event at every major messenger champs there are some guidelines (but i cant find them online).
from what i recall… for it to be legit as a record.
from what i heard the ACMC skid was legit… but mainly seppos dont like being beaten, especially by someone on the other side of the world 
personally im hoping for a wet-ish track and tonnes of entrants… given dimos is involved chaos and good times is guaranteed.
i’ve been practicing binning it and building up scar tissue in preparation… :roll:
With the amount of skid science, technique and advice going on in this thread - I wouldn’t be surprised if we have to cordon off Rathdowne st and utilise Queensberry st as an extension of the ‘runway’
skid slalom?
+1 in support of the shop talk and pseudoscience
/end discussion.
When there’s zero weight on the rear tyre it doesn’t matter if it’s made of gecko feet or teflon.
Speed, speed, speed.
momentum : mass times velocity.
skidcomps would make a great iphone app, just remembering idle hours wasted on early golf games … the faster you’re going, the harder it is to hold at the start. Konami Hyperolympics! Taptaptaptaptap
and having seen people eke out 15-20 extra metres when going at a snails pace, i’m going to politely disagree. speed will get you so far (see previous posts)… but good technique will get you further.
momentum is a factor, but length of skid is dependent on the dissipation of that momentum. resistive force (via technique primarily, but equipment plays a part - see bullhorns/tyres) comes into play massively at the end stages of the skid when speeds are low.
from what i’ve seen this is where the real battles in skid comps are won. the guys that do well can draw out a skid in its latter stages for almost tedious periods.
fwiw: i wont be challenging the top skidders…
gravitational pull of the moon is also a factor - if possible try to skid towards to moon. I’ve won quite a lot of these comps and I’ve found a combination of flatulence and lunar awareness provides that little bit extra that’s required for an awesome (yet smelly) victory.
Bst pst EVA!
going to be fun… whos bringing the boom box??