I’ve got an Alan Competition - you can tell it apart from the Super Record as the Competition has bolts joining the seat stays to the seat tube and the SR has cutouts in the lugs
I was close to buying one in 2008 when I was living in the states and they were routinely going for around $500 complete with NR or SR groups (sometimes a lot more, sometimes a lot less). Something to be aware of is that a shedload of them are cracked at the front of the head/down tube lug. The wreath below the “Alan” is commonly the end of a hairline crack coming up from the bottom of the lug, front dead centre. I think a lot of them a ridden like this for many years without a problem, but it made me uneasy about grabbing one.
I don’t want to start a flame war but I’ve always thought that Alans look naff. Something about the use of glue to hold a frame together just doesn’t sit right with me.
My concern with Alan bikes is the whole durability thing- they have a pretty bad reputation as JP points out. Keep in mind these we cutting edge designs using aluminium before things like finite element analysis was around… just sayin
There is a reason you don’t see many early 90’s carbon frames being ridden anyone.
Ha!! I don’t really like Alan’s … they look a little gaudy to me and I much prefer Vitus’/Vitii
That being said … most old frames die eventually and I haven’t come across any data to suggest Alan’s are an more prone to failure than lugged steel. Again a case of “I read/heard/assume they’re fragile” so I’m gonna discredit a frame that I’ve had no personal experience with because I’m a parrot on the interwebs with a baseless opinion.
Do you know how many steel frame failures I’ve seen? Not from impact, but just riding along then bam, right rear dropout/derailleur hanger, bottom bracket area, fork crown’s, seat stays etc etc. Plenty of failures, yes … but a correspondingly similar percentage of lugged alu frames break/fail we get web experts who’ve never owned or ridden one make claims that they are all junk.
Treat every frame on it’s merits/appearance. Most bikes are likely to have been crashed. Most older frames are likely to have been ridden and don’t come with an warranty. If you’re not an expert take it to a framebuilder or a good LBS and have them inspect it for damage and roadworthyness. Don’t automatically assume because it’s steel that it’s gonna last forever or because it’s glued alu that it’s gonna fail tomorrow. Old shit breaks, so does new stuff too. It’s up to you to check your frame over and know what to look for.
^ Fair enough.
Having said that you’d rather have a steel fork fail on you than an aluminium fork, right? I’ll let Blakey and DaFrog elaborate on each materials failure characteristics…