2013 Felt TK2, 2011 Look AL464, other brake-drilled track frames

I’m riding a branded-steel + carbon fork fixed gear on the road with geared-bike riders, and I’ve just started doing a little TTing with the local tri club. The bike rides great & is relatively light but doesn’t feel as stiff as I’d like under heavy acceleration or climbing. I’d like to try one of the brake-drilled track frames. The leading contenders are a 2013 Felt TK2 or a 2011 Look AL464. A whole Felt has just come up in my size for about $150 less than I can get the Look frame+fork.

Has anyone ridden either of these frames on the road? Anything else I should really look at in the same sort of price bracket?

Why not buy a TT bike with gears? Tri people flip them cheap

Thanks Zach for the fast response. I only have room for 1 bike and I love riding fixed too much to give it up. Gears and me don’t get along so I’d be riding a geared TT bike for business rather than pleasure :).

Still worth keeping an eye out for a TT bike that has track ends. Didn’t Cervelo or someone do that?

Yeah, a lot of the Cervelo TT bikes have track ends so you can run as fixies. Just remember 130mm spacing.

Also, what sort of poor life decisions lead you to hang out with a triathlon club?

Fixed gear for TT sounds fun, pretty sure it’s a (big?) thing in the UK.

Both those frames will have trade offs. Personally I think the Look has average geometry for a track bike, headtube is too long per given size meaning it could be hard to get low enough. Toe overlap isn’t too bad on them or not on the size I have rode. Both have pretty high bottom brackets which is nice. The felt has pretty small headtube per given size so it’d be easier to get a good TT position. I rode a 54cm (or maybe 56) once though and they toe overlap was quite bad if i remember correctly. I’d probably go the Felt though.

Proper laughed reading that.

I put it down to a mid-life crisis. They’ve been nice so far though, only got a little bit of stick about the missing rear-wheel jewellery.

Thanks for the tip about Cervelo TT frames. I haven’t seen any P-series with track ends yet but will keep an eye out. So far I’ve only seen photos of guys TTing with what looks like T-series frames.

Yeah so far it’s been awesome, exquisitely painful.

Thanks, good to know, I was wondering about overlap given the front-end angles.

Yeah the cervelo p1’s definitely have track ends, and a pretty short headtube too. Could try that?

Ah, cool, thanks, looks like some of the newer P-series have vertical dropouts but the older ones (which I’d be looking for on the second-hand market anyway) are the ones with track ends. I’ll look out for them.

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Yes.

Only noticed this part of this Question.

Used Langsters or Fuji track pros… probably a bunch of other alloy bikes that are similar in that price range that I can’t think of right now. Those Fujis have the highest bottom bracket of any off the shelf track frame that I know of, totally a good thing if you plan on pedalling through corners.

Just get a road bike it’s 2015

What size are you? Selling a Koga Full Track Pro Frame + Fork in the particularly cool Nemo colourway.

Ignore that, just read the ‘brake drilled’ part.

This is wrong, looks like the newer models still have fork ends. I was fooled by the shortness of the fork ends and Cervelo’s own graphic on their P-series site, which shows vertical dropouts!

Thanks for following up…I’ve also been looking out for Langsters. There’s a Fuji track pro near me in my size but it looks like the fork isn’t drilled. There’s a flat spot where a brake could go but no actual hole. Drillable?

Great to know about the higher BB on the Fuji, I hadn’t noticed that. I’d like to feel less stress during cornering than I do now :).

I’d get the LOOK.
I have the LOOK and love it! It’s my commute bike.
I looked at the Felt track models but decided the LOOK was more suited to what I was after.
It’s fine on the road - I run 28 rubber and it handles everything :slight_smile: