Im with Spirito on this one Stronglight FTW!
they realllly ugly
and i want style coz its not like im a messenger who kinda wants his performance
dont get me wrong, ive ridden on omniums before on a mates bike and they are insanely nice ugly cranks
not surprising the fluted campys are a good 20 years older and weren’t made of the best alloy…
Does this mean more modern versions of the pista cranks would be better?
yea heaps better… the star fish style campy pistas are as good as any other track cranks, suginos and suntours
the fluted cranks were known for snapping
if you want some super hot cranks get a set of Suntour Superbe Pro 165’s
yeah i saw the superbes on njs export. they look pretty sick.
and they pretty cheap…
whats the deal with that site?
has anyone been stooged or all legit…
Pretty legit, can be over priced though
the Superbes pros are the cranks to own… Even better when matched to a nice superbes pro gruppo
hubs, bb, head set, pedals, chain ring, kog and lockring…
That setup is an NJS nerds wet dream
Fuck all this, different aluminium alloys don’t flex less or more. The elastic modulus is within a 7% range regardless of the strength. If anything the weak alloy designs flex less because there’s more material to compensate.
If you break or bend the crank you can start asking seriously which one is better, otherwise it’s masturbatory NJS walk talk.
IMHO of course 
I understand that you don’t want to buy a dud, but really, you aren’t choosing between Campagnolo and K-mart here.
Just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons 
Explain stiffer ??? 
How stiff does a crank have to be. There are many things of a bicycle that are much more flexible and have way more give (frames for one, wheels, tires deflect, saddle, bars, stem, your legs etc etc), and the crank is already one of the least flexible components of a bicycle.
In fact I ask you coolio’s to stand astride your bike facing it side on with the pedal at the “six’o’clock” position and whilst holding the saddle and handlbars in either arm stand on the pedal. Do that a few times. You’ll notice the whole bike flexes. It’s supposed to and is an integral part of it’s design - it’s this flex that makes a bike responsive, comfortable and aids in power transmission. Were the bike to have no flex at all it’d be a dog to ride, have no feel and sap energy. There I said it, you can lose energy by having too much stiffness !!!
There’s been good testing done on this issue in several of the Bicycle Quarterly’s and the issue of bikes that ride magic (they call it planing) because they flex and are made of lighter gauge standard diameter tubing (rather than oversize stiffer tubing). I also speak with a lot of older rider’s who were Elite and National level racers and they call the sensation "whip". Just cause a frame flexes doesn’t mean that energy is lost.
Of course in the world of track, especially with the violent explosive bursts of acceleration, some extra frame stiffness is desirable and required but not as much as people here would think. Certainly even on the best track bikes the frame and wheels will flex way, way, way before the crank ever does.
Call me crazy (actually call me anything you like) but I think you cats are just buying marketing myth and paying for untested, unproven technology when you start believing the hype about brand X crank being stiffer. Stiffer than what? Especially when I’d guess that most of you are punching out 3-400 watts on the street … crank flex doesn’t even rate :rolleyes: I’m reading about the old style Campy fluted cranks being too flexy yet riders who regularly do sub 11 second sprints have never mentioned any such issue. It’s all in your headz … get a powertap and do some testing on the same bike, same conditions and with just a change of cranks, over and over again, standardize you testing and check the results.
Good position, nice tyres, aero-ish wheels, to some degree weight (depending on the discipline) … they’re all valid, tested and proven ways to be faster. Buying the latest greatest crank just because it’s stiffer … you’re just pissing money away IMO
When they asked Eddy Merckx what his secret was, what young aspiring cyclists should do if they aim to be like him, he responded “Ride lots”. 
Shit, next you’ll be telling me that the 5 grams i saved by using carbon bar tape and carbon plug end plugs won’t do jack.
You crazy.
I’m going to agree with pretty much everything you’ve said, however: An A Grade BCC sprinter upgraded from a steel Kypo to a carbon BT, but kept his 151BCD Pista cranks that he’s raced on since being a junior, now they’re the most flexible part of his drivetrain.
For everyone else, go with the ones that match your cycling cap.
Is ‘whip’ similar to the effect of a golf club? If you watch a slow-motion video of a golf swing, the handle arches quite a lot on the downswing, and then the head* snaps forwards just before it hits the ball, giving it greater momentum.
*Please excuse my lack of golf knowledge, I wouldn’t have a clue what it’s actually called.
What about Shimano 600’s? How do they figure in the grand scheme of cranks?
If you like the way it looks then it’s done it’s job. I got respect for anyone buying whatever they like just on looks alone. Nothing wrong with a nice bike 
Exactly
Wait a minute, what’s a good match for my chrome dome?
I dunno much about golf (and like it that way) and I can’t say if it’s correlative or similar. All I can say is that some flex is good. Of course a too flexy bike isn’t ideal either. This is an entirely different subject to this thread and a lot has been written, analyzed and argued of late on this subject, and not every rider is the same. The “oldtimer’s” liken the sensation to the frame being a large spring, and the return flex or “whip” is said to be of benefit. Almost all of them denounce overly stiff frames, likening them to feeling “dead” and as if their losing energy because it’s unyielding.
Jan Heine calls it “planing” … being able to stay on top of a gear when climbing rather than changing down, feeling springy, sprightly … like the frame is working with you, aiding and rewarding efforts rather than draining them. Grab some of the older issues of Bicycle Quarterly where they have a few riders blind test different frames built by the same manufacturer (regular and oversize tubing, thin and thick gauge) over the same course. The results make for interesting reading.
I find it all an interesting counter point to all this “stiff is better” malarky we’re being fed by the bicycle industry marketing depts.
Nice cranks bro … very collectible
They are model 63 yea?
Could you point me in the direction of some stronglight dust caps?
Look like 63’s … (allen bolts to attach the rings). They’re just beautiful. I’m the last person to ask about dust caps as I generally don’t use them and never remember to save 'em for others. If I spot some I’ll holla but keep in mind you’re up against half of Japan bidding on them.
Stronglight alloy cranks history
One of my favourite later style Stornglight cranks is the 105 bis … I’m a sucker for drillium !!!
maybe my creaking and flex has something to do with discovering my crank bolts could’ve been tighter…