Looks like a pretty good deal for $1100, about half the equivalent Surly/Soma/Salsa/Bombtrack.
I can’t afford it until about March but the T7 full price is still only $1300. So how come they are so cheap? Or maybe how come the Ogre and Troll cost twice that? I had decided to save and maybe buy a Surly this time next year. But this is so tempting.
The BikeSnobNYC has been testing one for a while and he seems to like it.
I don’t know/ can’t be bothered looking at what the Surly/Soma/Salsa/Bombtrack come specced with, but I reckon the low order components on this are a big reason as to why it’s cheap.
Does indeed seem like a good deal.
You even get a good range Sunrace 10-Speed 10-42T cassette.
I guess the “Double Butted CrMo composition” frame will be heavier than Soma or Surly.
I have seen these bikes in the flesh and I don’t think they were overly heavy. If they are heavier than Surly Soma then I wouldn’t say it was by much.
As others say they seem well spec’d for the money. A mate of mine has one and raves about it. He bought a suspension fork for trail riding because I imagine it probably acts a bit like a pogo stick through the rough stuff, especially unloaded. I think it’s a pretty stiff steel fork.
The GX level stuff works well although the X7/GX rear derailleur linkages do develop play fairly quickly—an upgrade to an X9 RD is pretty cheap tho’. I also found the Formula hubs don’t have great bearing sealing, meaning you wear out bearings more quickly than better on better quality hubs. And the ones I had had a weird sealed bearing cone rather than pressfit end caps. This makes freehub maintenance a pain.
Looks like great value on paper. I’ve shortlisted this a budget option for myself while looking for a commuter/monstercross type bike. Not in the market until March either so I’ll see what deals are around then.
What’s its purpose? Trails only, or road/trails/‘gravel’? The suspension fork version is only a few hundred more and (might) get 11 speed shimano shadow derailleur and shifters [i say might because specs on torpedo still say 10sp cassette?]. Or you could probably buy a nicer front shock if you were happy with the 10sp setup on this one.
I suppose the purpose is commuting/road/gravel. Not much trails. Whatever I get, it will be flat bar with hydro disks, plenty of mounts, Fat tyres with mudguards. I think I want a proper front rack so that sort of rules out suspension forks.
And I’m not entirely convinced by the 1x. I used to have a bike with X5 (or was it X7?) with a triple chainring and that was fine.