im in room 1038 at bumrangrad international if you wanna call me?
"Glancing around and there’s a bunch of frames on the wall, all repair jobs. Some Baum, some not. Those that aren’t are Ti frames, beloved by their owner but most likely from a bigger shop with less commitment to design. These frames nearly all have problems that are design related.
Sure they can be repaired but no-one is going to guarantee a repair when there are design issues."
all i’m saying is in 4 years of servicing baums (and i’ve seen quite a few) i’ve seen more than enough ‘design issues’. i think it pretentious, conceited and frankly hypocritical for darren baum to trash talk anyone when i’ve seen the things that have come out of the factory (pretty much all in Ti). i’m done here, i’m not gonna have a shit fight in a thread about a bike that you are clearly and understandably excited about.
Sorry Blakey there is a very boring and prolific Melbourne-centric tall poppy thing going around here.
What seems to be missed is that fact opinions are like arse holes. Every one has one. Unlike dream bikes…
Bagging out the quite honestly hard earned cash and time of others is fucking ridiculous, boring and totally tedious.
And for the record. A.davis opinions of the bikes Baum builds have been vented on this and other forums more than once.
Soz, thought this was becoming the Baum hate thread and was just hating the haters. Clearly can only do this if you’re from Melbs.
Also won’t post anything passionate as it might be interpreted as saleys.
Will stick to the facts maam.
SK, can you give me some fact based, non-saleys, non-passionate feedback on Nokon for snappier gear changing vs the regulation cable set from a well known Italian cycling parts manufacturer.
I’ve got some Yokozuna Reaction cables in the cupboard that I’ve been meaning to put on for maybe a month now (that’s right Nikcee, I still haven’t fitted them), so obviously I can’t give you a review yet but the internet seems to think that they’re better than Nokon.
I got them to improve some cable disc brakes so I’m keen to see the result, but I’m still deciding on some other changes to that bike so I’m holding off on the cables.
I’ll let you know when I get around to fitting them.
Nokons are a pita to fit. With campag you have to use an adaptive piece for the shifter body/cable interface as the nokons are larger than 4mm. And there is nothing to hold the segments together, so one slip and your chasing beads of alloy around the room. Both prolly non events for you as Baum will build this beast. Shifting wise they work just as well as the campag cables which is what you want as the campag cables work really well.
Another issue is they can rattle when your riding…
I’ve used the ilink cables which are much easier to set up and work on par and am now using AiCAN cables which have non of the install issues that the other too systems have ( ilinks are sensitive to liner install ) and auctally shift better. Better than campag std cables too!
If you can handle the rattling and some one else is doing the nokons for you they do look great though!
+1 on HLC, always interesting to hear first hand feed back of things like this. Looking forward to the build.
As for cables, im currently running Yokozuna on the BMC. Feels great, installation a bit tricky as i used a dremel to cut the cable as i couldnt cut it cleanly enough with regular cable cutters.
Good info but I don’t know if I could handle cables that rattled. Nokons do look cool and would certainly add bling.
Two votes for Yokozuna so I’ll investigate further. I already have a Campy cable set but if there are better options
I’m more than happy to investigate/purchase.
I really wasn’t thinking about where the bike would be longer. I assumed in the stem and either flipping the stem
if the geo worked or just having 10mm more in the HT but still with a spacer.
It was a response to a comment I made, wondering aloud, how much different the new bike geometry would be to the Crux I bought recently and if I’d made a mistake with the Crux.
Wider bars are certainly something I want to do with the Crux, stock bars are 42cm and my road bikes are all setup
with 44cm bars.
I currently run nokons and all I would say is never again, the hassle with setting them up far outweighs the benefits, they do add to the bling factor, but no more than really well set up normal cables, and if I was laying down the sort of money that baums cost I would excpect they spend a bit of time getting ultra tidy cable routing. Another thing is that if your playing around with bar sizes/styles it is way cheaper to just grab another meter of outer and an inner cable to change over bars rather than a whole extra kit which is what you would be looking at with nokons
I recommend the AiCAN b link system…
Tidy, super easy to install and it acutally works better than the campag cables in shifting department…
Something most aftermarket cables don’t manage to achieve
