I have seen a “de-bonded” one with my own eyes, and I have ridden one other which was fine. So 1 out of 2. Ah anecdotal statistics, meaningful!
Its a very safe frame. I jumped it down for steps last night.
should put a 650 on the front so you can barsipins down stairs
The breakage rate for steel frames is actually higher than for early style lugged alu/carbon. This is confirmed by the person who did all the repairs for these in the US and also with conversations I’ve had with local builders who have worked on and seen a few of these.
Clapped out, poorly made or designed, ridden hard into the ground anything will break whether it’s steel, alu, carbon, ti. The most common broken frames I see are from impact and the right rear dropout/hanger on most any frame. I’ve crashed the Vitus (alu) I have into a pedestrian and subsequently the ground with me on top of it. It held together amazingly well except for the fork which would have busted no matter what material it was. AS a testament the fork crown and dropouts remained perfect (even though they are glued) and it was the fork leg which bent/twisted with the force of the impact. I’ve posted pics here.
I’m just setting the record straight and dispelling the “myth” that so many people have about these frames.
Fwiw, I was the owner of Aaron’s carbo track frame a couple of years ago. It is exceptionally light, rides very well and is a landmark frame for innovation and use of new materials/methods. Truly 1st Gen. unless you count the Exxon Graftek which were not as comonly ridden or used by Euro Pro’s like the Vitus’. And of course Sean Kelly won numerous Wold Championships (and a Paris Roubaix) riding a Vitus just like you could buy anywhere. He had no major failures and used only a couple of frames per year as did all the pro’s riding lugged steel frames at the time.
It really is an old wives tale, they’re good frames and much underated. Especially when you consider they were 20 to 50% more expensive than the finest of steel frames (Colnago, De Rosa, Cinelli etc etc). I’ve had about 7 over the years - they’re not to everyone’s taste but I like 'em a lot.
now that’s a slightly more informative and persuasive post than “your opinion counts for shit”
Sometimes it’s good to emphasize the truth and be blunt. It gets remembered. If someone posts uniformed opinions I’m happy to call it rubbish when I see it.
/// oh yeah … forgot to add the graftek link to the above so i’ll pop it here if’n anyone is keen to read
Graftek
Ok but do you like the build Ben?
yeah its ok but its carbon man… wouldnt leave that out in the sunlight too long and if its 2nd hand… you’re fucked pretty much, hope youve got life insurance
steel is real, carbon is just some shit on the periodic table
Yes I do. Looks very well balanced too. Understated, which is a rare thing these days (especially for you BrisVegas boys who seem to blinging bikes like Russian oligarchs on yachts/football teams).
I wouldn’t be honest if I didn’t say I think it’s a little too small for you but I’m just going by the position of the saddle and drops. You must be very fit/flexible and have very good core strength for your age (not saying you’re old, just sayyin’). I know Gypsy’s gonna tempt/beg/swindle it out of your hands if he rides it … we’ll see 
More importantly, I’m curious to see how you think it rides/handles. Probably too early for you to say yet (until you get used to it and rack up some miles) but they do feel very different to steel bikes. Immediate impressions are very smooth/quiet and also very light/responsive. What do yuo say?
You’re comments ain’t kosher …
i’m especially liking the forks, had a look at this this morning and wasn’t hot on it, but now looking again it’s grown on me alot, think it’s the stronglight cranks that are getting me.
All in all though classy neat and as Spirito said understated.
So many nice builds coming out of the woodworks lately
Call me crazy but this would look pretty tidy on it if you want a brake.
Tokyo Fixed Gear - Wound Up - Road Fork Carbon
You can put a rear brake on it easy (not that it’s ideal) … the rear seatstay bridge is the same casting as the road versions of this frame. It’d be hard to keep the brake cable tidy though and rear brakes and fixed gears feel weird + no where near as powerful as a front brake. I thought about using a road fork whilst I had it but it seemed a shame to mix up such a rare bird.
nice ride aaron!
^Cheers Evil, that’s good from you and my relationship.
this thing is fucken sweet. your best bike/build imo! love the simple black/alloy colour scheme
Thanks everyone. Lindy and I love it . Linda got me the saddle for Xmas.
you’re welcome brah